Ahh, right I know what you mean. Your right very much right it is still eye candy.
I'm done!
Shawn Regan
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan McCollough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:12 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Progress indication and FB
Yeah, but that's not much different from what I'm suggesting: It's a binary
thing; either the process is done or it aint. To appease the click-happy,
though, having some sort of progress guage helps. But really, unless the
cilent polls the server regularly, and there is an agreed-upon finite number
of "work units", and a count of completed units, all you've got is eye
candy. Heck, even if you do have an accurate progress meter, its really eye
candy. but thats clearly IMHO.
Okay, this part is fbcommunity, but I'll drop it after this: I spent 15
hours yesterday recovering a bombed NT server. All day, and I mean ALL DAY I
looked at that blue NT setup screen with its yellow progress bar. I've HAD
IT with progress bars!
The End.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Regan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:50 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Progress indication and FB
>
> With flash the "Processing animation" is ran client side and doesn't
> affect the server.
>
> The animation plays until a response is received so there is no guessing
> at how long the process will take for create an animated gif. You just
> play an animation until flash receives the response back from the server.
>
> This way you truly have a real "Progress Indication".
>
>
> Shawn Regan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan McCollough [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:10 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Progress indication and FB
>
>
> Rave and think, buddy, go for it. Until Nat the topic cop catches up with
> ya, that is. Heh.
>
> Now let me ask y'all... From a developer's side, we all know that the only
>
> purpose for a progress bar is to keep the end user from going nuts and
> clicking "Submit" 20 times in a row out of impatience. It doesn't make
> anything run faster, and in fact, if it's doing ANYTHING server-side,
> actually makes things take longer.
>
> Is it -really- beneficial to create a super-accurate progress bar that is
> consuming server time just to let the user know "Not Yet"? I'm not saying
> the users are cockroaches or anything, but I really think if you know your
>
> process takes X seconds under load, then displaying an animated GIF that
> is
> (X * 1.25) seconds long to complete will probably do the trick.
>
> Let's think it out. Three possibilities exist:
>
> 1.) The process completes before the GIF runs out = User is estatic!
> 2.) The process completes when the GIF runs out = User is satisfied.
> 3.) The GIF runs out before the process completes = User will grow
> impatient, and probably reclick madly
>
> By increasing the amount of time the GIF runs, you increase the odds of
> 1.)
> occuring and decrease the odds that 3.) occurs. All without spending a
> single CPU cycle on the server, or tossing so much as a byte of bandwith
> to
> the skies.
>
> I'm trying to think of a single "big boy" site I've used, such as a stock
> trading site, that has anything other than a "This may take a minute, do
> not
> double submit!" notice. Can't think of one.
>
> Sorry if that sounds fbcommunity-ish, folks.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee Foster [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 6:37 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Progress indication and FB
> >
> > I've been thinking about this for while for a new software package that
> > I've
> > been talking about with Steve Nelson, Lee Borkman and others about. I
> > still
> > think a flash version is the best answer. Don't get me wrong. If
> someone
> > is great in Java I'm sure they can write up a nice version too. But in
> my
> > case my Java is a bit ghostly in the black hole I call a brain. So I
> > would
> > use Flash.
> >
> > My question would be in Fusebox or anything for that matter. How would
> I
> > update the application status without reloading the page and still do
> the
> > actions. Currently the best guess I have is to open up a very small
> > window
> > (25 x 25) and have JavaScript somehow send the updates to the main
> window
> > that has the Flash movie in it. When all of the actions are complete
> the
> > small windows would send a done indication to the main screen and just
> > close.
> >
> > Sorry about the raving and thinking out loud,
> >
> >
> > Lee Foster
> > (e)consultant, Web developer, Web Architect
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 615-834-1876
> > <http://www.l3enterprises.com>
> > Nashville, TN
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Huyck [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 8:53 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Progress indication and FB
> >
> > The method I like is to have your form submit to a page that only does
> two
> > things:
> > 1) it displays a message stating that the application is working-- with
> an
> > animation of some sort (think expedia or orbitz or something when it is
> > searching the database for flights-- takes 30+ seconds everytime)
> > 2) it resubmits your data to the "real" destination where your
> fuseaction
> > can
> > process the data appropriately and take its time...
> >
> > HTH,
> > David Huyck
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 5:04 PM
> > Subject: Progress indication and FB
> >
> >
> > | So I have a fuseaction that is mega process intensive. (I know I need
>
> > to
> > | tune it)
> > | Anyhow.
> > | Anyone have any good ways to give the user some sort of indication
> that
> > the
> > | application is working so they do not click again?
> > |
> > | -Drew Harris
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
> >
>
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