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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:41:06 -0400
From: "Patrick McElhaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: paths in fb3


> Barney wrote:
>
> but you still can't drag and drop the circuit to
> a new application without
> requiring the other circuit at well.  I do
> exactly this, but only for
> circuits that are very application specific,
> and/or have an unbreakable bond
> with the other circuit.
>
If two circuits have an "unbreakable bond" why don't you
combine them into a single circuit?

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Date: Fri,  4 Oct 2002 11:45:35 -0700
From: "Perry Woodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jumping to point in display page.


This is more an HTML question than a Fusebox problem. If I understand correctly, you 
just want to jump down to a link in your page.  To do this, just make sure your 
anchors have a unique (to the page) name and id attribute (for example <a 
href="index.cfm" id="link42" name="link42">)


Then, to jump to the section in you page you would append #42 to the end of your link. 
 If using a cflocation, if would look like this: <cflocation 
url="#self#?fuseaction=main.fuseaction##42">  

(Note the double pound signs when inside a cflocation.)

You can add the name and id attributes to any of the HTML tags, so if you want the 
page to jump to the beginning of a spcific paragraph you could add id and name to the 
P tag <p id="paragraph12" name="paragraph12">.  I don't bother to use the name 
attribute any more because id superceeds it in newer browsers.

HTH
Perry
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Russell Mohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:21:57 -0700

>I have situation where I have a display page that is quite long with
>multiple exit points that go to some action and then come back to the
>display page. (The users insisted on this, not liking my linear approach
>with smaller display pages.) Now they complain that they have to scroll down
>to where they left off. Is there a technique that will work with Fusebox to
>take the user to an anchor, like you would see in a page with an index at
>the top, that can be passed as an attribute on a button url? If this sound
>fuzzy it is because I am going through my html guru for the terminology.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Russell E. Mohn
>Office of Vice-President for Research and Economic Affairs
>Arizona State University
>Box 873503
>ADMB160R
>Tempe, AZ 85287-3503
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Phone: 480-965-4736 - Fax: 480-965-2455
>Web: http://ovprhelpdesk.vprc.asu.edu/ 
>
>
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>
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:46:44 -0400
From: "Douglas Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jumping to point in display page.


<html>
You can do this in the action of the form.<br><br>
&lt;form action=&quot;index.cfm#myanchor&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;input type=&quot;hidden&quot; name=&quot;fuseaction&quot;
value=&quot;myfuseaction&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;input type=&quot;submit&quot; name=&quot;do_submit&quot;
value=&quot;test&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;/form&gt;<br><br>
If you need more than one anchor per form, then you need to use
javascript to change the form action dynamically, based on the button you
press.<br><br>
At 11:21 AM 10/4/02 -0700, Russell Mohn wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font size=2>I have situation where
I have a display page that is quite long with multiple exit points that
go to some action and then come back to the display page. (The users
insisted on this, not liking my linear approach with smaller display
pages.) Now they complain that they have to scroll down to where they
left off. Is there a technique that will work with Fusebox to take the
user to an anchor, like you would see in a page with an index at the top,
that can be passed as an attribute on a button url? If this sound fuzzy
it is because I am going through my html guru for the terminology.<br>
</font><br>
<font size=2>Thanks.</font> <br><br>
<font size=2>Russell E. Mohn</font> <br>
<font size=2>Office of Vice-President for Research and Economic
Affairs</font> <br>
<font size=2>Arizona State University</font> <br>
<font size=2>Box 873503</font> <br>
<font size=2>ADMB160R</font> <br>
<font size=2>Tempe, AZ 85287-3503</font> <br>
<font size=2>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</font> <br>
<font size=2>Phone: 480-965-4736 - Fax: 480-965-2455</font> <br>
<font size=2>Web:
<a href="http://ovprhelpdesk.vprc.asu.edu/";>http://ovprhelpdesk.vprc.asu.edu/</a>
<br>
</font><br>
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:46:44 -0400
From: "Douglas Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Jumping to point in display page.


<html>
You can do this in the action of the form.<br><br>
&lt;form action=&quot;index.cfm#myanchor&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;input type=&quot;hidden&quot; name=&quot;fuseaction&quot;
value=&quot;myfuseaction&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;input type=&quot;submit&quot; name=&quot;do_submit&quot;
value=&quot;test&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;/form&gt;<br><br>
If you need more than one anchor per form, then you need to use
javascript to change the form action dynamically, based on the button you
press.<br><br>
At 11:21 AM 10/4/02 -0700, Russell Mohn wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font size=2>I have situation where
I have a display page that is quite long with multiple exit points that
go to some action and then come back to the display page. (The users
insisted on this, not liking my linear approach with smaller display
pages.) Now they complain that they have to scroll down to where they
left off. Is there a technique that will work with Fusebox to take the
user to an anchor, like you would see in a page with an index at the top,
that can be passed as an attribute on a button url? If this sound fuzzy
it is because I am going through my html guru for the terminology.<br>
</font><br>
<font size=2>Thanks.</font> <br><br>
<font size=2>Russell E. Mohn</font> <br>
<font size=2>Office of Vice-President for Research and Economic
Affairs</font> <br>
<font size=2>Arizona State University</font> <br>
<font size=2>Box 873503</font> <br>
<font size=2>ADMB160R</font> <br>
<font size=2>Tempe, AZ 85287-3503</font> <br>
<font size=2>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</font> <br>
<font size=2>Phone: 480-965-4736 - Fax: 480-965-2455</font> <br>
<font size=2>Web:
<a href="http://ovprhelpdesk.vprc.asu.edu/";>http://ovprhelpdesk.vprc.asu.edu/</a>
<br>
</font><br>
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:36:16 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: paths in fb3


A good example is permission-based security.  The permissions circuit works
on it's own, but isn't conceptually useful without a groups circuit.  The
groups circuit flat-out can't work without the permissions circuit, because
part of it's job is to associate permissions into groups.  The permissionc
circuit is stand-alone, but the groups circuit depends on having a
permissions circuit, so it makes sense that that dependancy can exist at the
fuse level as well as the conceptual level.

While they could be combined, I personally don't because in pretty much all
permission-based security systems the permissions stuff is the same
(drag-n-drop it), but the groups stuff is not always the same.  One app
might be "groups have permissions", another might be "groups have
permissions for certain data", meaning the 'user admin' group has the user
manipulation permission set for a certain subset of users.

Carry that up to the user-group relationship, and you see a similar
situation, although the specific relationship becomes even more
app-specific.

barneyb

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick McElhaney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: paths in fb3


> Barney wrote:
>
> but you still can't drag and drop the circuit to
> a new application without
> requiring the other circuit at well.  I do
> exactly this, but only for
> circuits that are very application specific,
> and/or have an unbreakable bond
> with the other circuit.
>
If two circuits have an "unbreakable bond" why don't you
combine them into a single circuit?

Patrick


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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:03:04 -0700
From: Russell Mohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Jumping to point in display page-Success with on caveate


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This worked with one modification. We pass in a variable for the fuseaction
as <cflocation url="#self#?fuseaction=#main.fuseaction###42&more
variables">. The variables after the link were being lost. We got around
this by moving the fuseaction to the end of the string and it worked
perfectly.

Thanks for the help with two questions in two days. This is my fist
enterprise application with lot's of cooks stirring the pot.

Russell E. Mohn
Office of Vice-President for Research and Economic Affairs
Arizona State University
Box 873503
ADMB160R
Tempe, AZ 85287-3503
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 480-965-4736 - Fax: 480-965-2455
Web: http://ovprhelpdesk.vprc.asu.edu/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Jumping to point in display page.


This is more an HTML question than a Fusebox problem. If I understand
correctly, you just want to jump down to a link in your page.  To do this,
just make sure your anchors have a unique (to the page) name and id
attribute (for example <a href="index.cfm" id="link42" name="link42">)


Then, to jump to the section in you page you would append #42 to the end of
your link.  If using a cflocation, if would look like this: <cflocation
url="#self#?fuseaction=main.fuseaction##42">  

(Note the double pound signs when inside a cflocation.)

You can add the name and id attributes to any of the HTML tags, so if you
want the page to jump to the beginning of a spcific paragraph you could add
id and name to the P tag <p id="paragraph12" name="paragraph12">.  I don't
bother to use the name attribute any more because id superceeds it in newer
browsers.

HTH
Perry
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Russell Mohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:21:57 -0700

>I have situation where I have a display page that is quite long with 
>multiple exit points that go to some action and then come back to the 
>display page. (The users insisted on this, not liking my linear 
>approach with smaller display pages.) Now they complain that they have 
>to scroll down to where they left off. Is there a technique that will 
>work with Fusebox to take the user to an anchor, like you would see in 
>a page with an index at the top, that can be passed as an attribute on 
>a button url? If this sound fuzzy it is because I am going through my 
>html guru for the terminology.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Russell E. Mohn
>Office of Vice-President for Research and Economic Affairs Arizona 
>State University Box 873503
>ADMB160R
>Tempe, AZ 85287-3503
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Phone: 480-965-4736 - Fax: 480-965-2455
>Web: http://ovprhelpdesk.vprc.asu.edu/ 
>
>
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>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>This worked with one modification. We pass in a variable for the 
fuseaction as &lt;cflocation 
url=&quot;#self#?fuseaction=#main.fuseaction###42&amp;more variables&quot;&gt;. The 
variables after the link were being lost. We got around this by moving the fuseaction 
to the end of the string and it worked perfectly.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks for the help with two questions in two days. This is my fist 
enterprise application with lot's of cooks stirring the pot.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Russell E. Mohn</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Office of Vice-President for Research and Economic Affairs</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Arizona State University</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Box 873503</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>ADMB160R</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Tempe, AZ 85287-3503</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Phone: 480-965-4736 - Fax: 480-965-2455</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [<A 
HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:46 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: Jumping to point in display page.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>This is more an HTML question than a Fusebox problem. If I understand 
correctly, you just want to jump down to a link in your page.&nbsp; To do this, just 
make sure your anchors have a unique (to the page) name and id attribute (for example 
&lt;a href=&quot;index.cfm&quot; id=&quot;link42&quot; 
name=&quot;link42&quot;&gt;)</FONT></P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Then, to jump to the section in you page you would append #42 to the 
end of your link.&nbsp; If using a cflocation, if would look like this: &lt;cflocation 
url=&quot;#self#?fuseaction=main.fuseaction##42&quot;&gt;&nbsp; </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>(Note the double pound signs when inside a cflocation.)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>You can add the name and id attributes to any of the HTML tags, so if 
you want the page to jump to the beginning of a spcific paragraph you could add id and 
name to the P tag &lt;p id=&quot;paragraph12&quot; 
name=&quot;paragraph12&quot;&gt;.&nbsp; I don't bother to use the name attribute any 
more because id superceeds it in newer browsers.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>HTH</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Perry</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Russell Mohn &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Date:&nbsp; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:21:57 -0700</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;I have situation where I have a display page that is quite long 
with </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;multiple exit points that go to some action and then come back to 
the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;display page. (The users insisted on this, not liking my linear 
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;approach with smaller display pages.) Now they complain that they 
have </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;to scroll down to where they left off. Is there a technique that 
will </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;work with Fusebox to take the user to an anchor, like you would 
see in </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;a page with an index at the top, that can be passed as an 
attribute on </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;a button url? If this sound fuzzy it is because I am going 
through my </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;html guru for the terminology.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Thanks.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Russell E. Mohn</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Office of Vice-President for Research and Economic Affairs 
Arizona </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;State University Box 873503</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;ADMB160R</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Tempe, AZ 85287-3503</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Phone: 480-965-4736 - Fax: 480-965-2455</FONT>
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:06:34 -0400
From: "Patrick McElhaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: paths in fb3


> Barney wrote:
>
> The groups circuit flat-out can't work without the permissions circuit,
> because part of it's job is to associate permissions into groups.
If the groups circuit is assigning permissions, what is the permissions
circuit doing?

Give me some more detail. What are the fuseactions in each circuit, and
which fuseactions are sharing what fuses?

Patrick





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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:23:41 -0700
From: "Rey Muradaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: paths in fb3


Another answer to this relates to the other thread I started this week--if your 
circuit switch ends up with 75 FAs, it's time to break it up into subcircuits, but the 
subs might still be sharing a lot of the same files (e.g., qry_get_client, etc.).  So 
sometimes it's necessary to unbundle the single circuit into "unbreakable bond" subs.

REM O-

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/04/02 11:41AM >>>
> Barney wrote:
>
> but you still can't drag and drop the circuit to
> a new application without
> requiring the other circuit at well.  I do
> exactly this, but only for
> circuits that are very application specific,
> and/or have an unbreakable bond
> with the other circuit.
>
If two circuits have an "unbreakable bond" why don't you
combine them into a single circuit?

Patrick


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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:26:36 -0700
From: "Barney Boisvert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: paths in fb3


Patrick McElhaney wrote:
> If the groups circuit is assigning permissions, what is the permissions
> circuit doing?

The groups circuit is defining groups, and then assigning permissions to
those groups.  But you have to create the permission list somewhere.  That's
what the permissions circuit does.  It also provides a place for
non-privileged users to look at what a permission means (I store a name and
description).

permissions circuit:
add permission
edit permission
insert permission
update permission
delete permission
view permission list

group circuit:
add group
edit group
insert group
update group
delete group
view group list

users circuit:
add user
edit user
insert user
update user
delete user
view user list

Within the add group and edit group fuseactions, you need to get a list of
permissions to associate with the group in question to pick which you want
to associate.  That's the same query as you'll use for the view permission
list fuseaction in the permissions circuit.  If you want to do it the
reverse way (edit a permission and alter the groups it's assigned to), then
you'll need the same relationship in reverse.

The same relationship exists between the users and groups circuits, just
change the names.

I've replicated this security system across three apps thus far.  Each
application the permissions circuit was identical (functionally), the groups
circuit was largely untouched, and the users circuit was pretty much gutted,
because of different information being tracked, username/password
constraints, whatever.

barneyb

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From: Patrick McElhaney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: paths in fb3


> Barney wrote:
>
> The groups circuit flat-out can't work without the permissions circuit,
> because part of it's job is to associate permissions into groups.
If the groups circuit is assigning permissions, what is the permissions
circuit doing?

Give me some more detail. What are the fuseactions in each circuit, and
which fuseactions are sharing what fuses?

Patrick


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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 01:27:08 +0300
From: "Erki Esken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: faq - request vars


> while we're at it, another GREAT item for a fusebox faq would be
> the over-use of request variables.  it becomes very problematic
> when you start having an applicaiton cfmodule itself, and gets
> even trickier when different applications start cfmoduling each
> other.

That's why I use as few request variables as possible. Instead I
create a settings structure in root fbx_settings.cfm and use vars
like settings.dsn, settings.page.title etc.

.erki





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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 19:34:18 -0400
From: "Douglas Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: faq - request vars


Erki

Is your settings var a local variable, or a request variable?

At 01:27 AM 10/5/02 +0300, Erki Esken wrote:
> > while we're at it, another GREAT item for a fusebox faq would be
> > the over-use of request variables.  it becomes very problematic
> > when you start having an applicaiton cfmodule itself, and gets
> > even trickier when different applications start cfmoduling each
> > other.
>
>That's why I use as few request variables as possible. Instead I
>create a settings structure in root fbx_settings.cfm and use vars
>like settings.dsn, settings.page.title etc.
>
>.erki
>
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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:58:06 +0300
From: "Erki Esken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: faq - request vars


> Is your settings var a local variable, or a request variable?

Local.

<cfset settings = StructNew()>
-or-
<cfparam name="settings" default="#StructNew()#" type="struct">

.erki





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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 04:19:33 +0200
From: "Lion v. Koppenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: MM CFMX Ball dropped?


There is a utility in the package that could have warned you you needed to change a 
bit of coding, it has to do with cf going java
 

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        >Oh, but don't try to use it on CFMX, as I have recently found out it
        >don't work too well...
        >
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        >www.perthweb.com.au         developer.perthweb.com.au
        
        
        Speaking of MX...
        
        We recently upgraded our system to CFMX on a Win2K server and things are
        looking pretty ugly, Code is broke, and overall things aren't working too
        well, all in all its a bad time here in the 'O.K. Coral.'
        
        I was just wondering does anyone else feel like Macromedia dropped the ball
        on this release? I have yet to hear many 'Everything is fine, we upgraded
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        Just asking,
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Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:39:06 -0500
From: Matt Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MM CFMX Ball dropped?


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We personally had very few problems when we switched to mx.  We have been quite happy. 
 as I was already including the 5.0 core file, rather than switching to determine the 
correct one, I ended up having to make no changes to my code.  


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From: Chris Brinker 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:53 PM
Subject: SOT: MM CFMX Ball dropped?


>Oh, but don't try to use it on CFMX, as I have recently found out it
>don't work too well...
>
>______________________________________________________
>Kay Smoljak      Web Developer        PerthWeb Pty Ltd
>
>Level 9/105 St George's Tc - Perth - Western Australia
>Ph: (08) 9226 1366 Fax: (08) 9226 1375
>
>www.perthweb.com.au      developer.perthweb.com.au


Speaking of MX...

We recently upgraded our system to CFMX on a Win2K server and things are 
looking pretty ugly, Code is broke, and overall things aren't working too 
well, all in all its a bad time here in the 'O.K. Coral.'

I was just wondering does anyone else feel like Macromedia dropped the ball 
on this release? I have yet to hear many 'Everything is fine, we upgraded 
and its all OK.' kinda statements

Just asking,
Chris Brinker




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<DIV><BR></DIV>&gt;Oh, but don't try to use it on CFMX, as I have recently found 
out it<BR>&gt;don't work too 
well...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;______________________________________________________<BR>&gt;Kay
 
Smoljak &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Web 
Developer&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PerthWeb Pty 
Ltd<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Level 9/105 St George's Tc - Perth - Western 
Australia<BR>&gt;Ph: (08) 9226 1366 Fax: (08) 9226 
1375<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;www.perthweb.com.au &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
developer.perthweb.com.au<BR><BR><BR>Speaking of MX...<BR><BR>We recently 
upgraded our system to CFMX on a Win2K server and things are <BR>looking pretty 
ugly, Code is broke, and overall things aren't working too <BR>well, all in all 
its a bad time here in the 'O.K. Coral.'<BR><BR>I was just wondering does anyone 
else feel like Macromedia dropped the ball <BR>on this release? I have yet to 
hear many 'Everything is fine, we upgraded <BR>and its all OK.' kinda 
statements<BR><BR>Just asking,<BR>Chris 
Brinker<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>Chat
 
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