Er, chief, this is beyond me,  are you the zen master? Who is the zen
master? I'm not a zen master, just a bad case of sinusitis and
consequently not expressing myself well. Whose arms are you going to cut
off and why do you want to do it? Alternatively, and more practically,
organize a real conference or debate simulating the futurework list
where the evas', jays', rays' etc can be made material. If people pay to
come, all the better. Or set up a revolutionary cell teaching
non-exploitative transactional conversational exchange values, so people
can talk again without fear of having their pockets picked. Don't really
see the advantages of amputation or  learning to say no in Russian
though. Please explain the depth and complexity of your thought.

Kind regards,


Mark Measday

Brad McCormick, Ed.D. wrote:

> Mark Measday wrote:
> >
> > Yep, if that makes any sense, though I don't know about the zen bit.
> So
> > can we expect a golden socialist future of mutual understanding
> based on
> > some scientific knowledge tempered with wisdom? Or the same old
> > dialectic between opposite understandings?
> >
> > MM
> >
> > Thomas Lunde wrote:
> >
> > > >In a world of pure self-interest, can there be any paradigms of
> > > >communication?
> > >
> > > Thomas:  This question sounds like one of those zen koans where
> you
> > > feel
> > > there should be an obvious answer and every time you put one
> forth,
> > > the
> > > master answers "nyet".
> [snip]
>
> I've been thinking about these Zen masters lately, in
> part based on thinking about how they exploit their students
> as cheap labor.  And I had an idea for an answer to
> that famous Koan:
>
>        What is the sound of one hand clapping?
>
> The student should simply amputate one of the master's
> hands, so that the master could learn.
>
> \brad mccormick
>
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