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> It's really quite simple. I see things totally in a material context. For
> example, people need a certain amount of water each day to survive.
> Moreover, the depth of a water table can be measured objectively.
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> If objective measures show that water tables are falling, then ultimately,
> people will die. It doesn't make any difference what people think, it
> doesn't make any difference what kind of government they have, it doesn't
> make any difference what people say, the only thing that matters is what
> they do. If what they are doing is lowering water tables, then they must
> either stop or die.
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So how do you know that they won't become conscious about
the water table and start to have water via different means?
The success of the survival of the human race sofar
depended on such more and more conscious (scientific) response
to the challenges of the physical environment.
> As I have said earlier, it's a "game management" problem. But people
> evolved to lie to others and themselves, so I expect people to continue
> denying the reality of their lives and continue as they have until society
> simply disintegrates and devolves in anarchy.
>
There is no physiological evolution in "lying" it is
a social/cultural construct and in the last 500
centuries or so the tendency is to approximate reality
better, even if we do have the ups and downns of
the "reality content" of each society or even
individual.
Eva
> Jay
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