I don't quite understand you. Whether sooner or later we
can describe accurately all the mechanisms in our brain that 
makes up our consciousness is not relevant to the existance
of reality, it existed before us and if as for Jay's insistence we
die out, it will exist without any conscious 
observers again. And the same goes for other alleged little green
observers...

Eva

> This is drifting off-topic, but an important point has to be made here.
> The psyche _is_ reality. It is the only thing we really know for sure.
> The external universe of physical objects and forces, while remarkably
> testable and consistent, is nevertheless only known via inference from
> the data we receive through the intermediary of our senses. To be true
> to the scientific method of questioning all assumptions, and testing
> all hypotheses, and striving to see the world only as it really is,
> we must recognize this fundamental fact. Consciousness is prior to
> all our knowledge of the mechanisms of the world, while being invisible
> to all but incisive introspection. Like water to fishes, something so
> fundamental and pervasive is necessarily of profound significance,
> and at some point in the future will yield to our investigations,
> revealing some unimaginable profound insights into the nature of reality,
> while doubtless vindicating some of the insights wrested from it
> by the dodgy methods of research employed by traditonal introspection
> schools. Researchers in the orthodox western tradition of hard
> science, who seek the truth by whatever means works, are by no means
> blind to this aspect of the world - which does not mean that they
> currently pursue it. The reason for the limited research into the
> nature of consciousness is that there is currently a lack of effective
> mechanisms for getting a handle on it. Like the Mulla Nasrudin searching
> for his keys under the lampost half a block from his darkened doorstep where
> he dropped them, we do our work in the areas where our methods produce
> immediate results.
>                                    -Pete Vincent
>                                     (at the TRIUMF particle physics lab)
> 
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