Good point below about single currency reducing currency speculation. That would scale back, in perpetuity, fictitious profits made from baseless profits. Would definitely upset the wealth of the top .01% by $3-500 trillion annually. Too good an idea, Ed.
Natalia

ED: "I'd have to think about it some more, but one law I might set if I were chief global law-giver is that you cannot speculate on currency. Of course, if there were a single currency you couldn't bet on its value against other currencies. All you could bet on is whether is whether it's going to maintain its value from day to day."


Ed Weick wrote:

I meant the following to go to Futurework as well as Natalia.
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Good morning, Natalia
I believe one has to think of currency as something that facilitates the flow of goods and services in an economy, nothing more. Life is ever so much easier with it than without it. But to have it and use it means that you have to have some very firm rules around it, such as rules that maintain its value relative to goods and services and that ensure that its value does not change too rapidly. To have such rules you need a stable and authoritative institutional infrastructure, like a strong, well-staffed central bank and a set of laws about what you can and can't do with money. You also need ways of avoiding and handling whammo events like the sub-prime meltdown in the US. There could, I suppose, be a single global currency system, but whether it worked or not would depend greatly on whether there was global acceptance and agreement about its rules and institutions. If Robert Magabwe didn't want to play by the rules, I suppose it really wouldn't matter, but if China or the US decided not to, it would matter greatly. I'd have to think about it some more, but one law I might set if I were chief global law-giver is that you cannot speculate on currency. Of course, if there were a single currency you couldn't bet on its value against other currencies. All you could bet on is whether is whether it's going to maintain its value from day to day. The euro is a good example of single currency used by a number of countries over a wide geographic area, but bringing the euro into existence required a lot of work and a lot of agreement by EU countries. It was not an easy job, but it seems to have worked. Ed
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    Hi Ed,

    I wasn't sure whether you thought single currency was a good
    thing, or yet another reason to acquire gold for fear it will come
    to pass.

    McKenna's idealistic views would be worth thinking about if there
    were such a thing as true global value or meaning to said standard
    currency. This particular perspective reflects someone's ideal
    Western version of value, which has no basis of fairness to it
    whatsoever, here or in Mauritius, but as history has shown, a
    single currency ensures that those who have most of it benefit
    from its sole distribution. Iraq tried the more beneficial Euro
    for oil currency until Bush 43 declared the end of major combat in
    his takeover war, and switched the oil currency back to the dollar
    because, thereby, imperial US could indirectly continue to tax
    Iraq, just as Rome did all other nations in its single currency
    conquered world.

    Countless examples of fictional wealth tabulated by computers as
    money have flooded the collective of recognized assets, but still
    maintain very questionable value. The most outstanding example is,
    once again, that of currency markets profits. Money made off of
    global gambling on various nations' currency values have far
    exceeded in one day the sum total of the US annual GDP. A loss of
    $3.3 trillion Defense budget to US taxpayers is not even
    investigated. The money was either honestly made or not, and which
    designation determines the value or loss? If it is ever recovered,
    would they ever determine or admit to its origin, restore it to
    the budget, the taxed people or to the covert group within the
    DOD? Corporate fraud of billions and trillions today simply
    vanishes into the ether. Someone still has the money, and it is
    laundered back into the faulty system. What extra effects,
    indirect taxation and otherwise, would this kind of activity have
    on poor nations' economies, where subsistence wage is deemed to be
    two bucks a day, and economies are most often local for reasons of
    survival? If the US dollar collapses, or even drops much further,
    where does that leave poor nations, let alone Canada? How will we
    deal with the illegal wealth of poor nations when we can't
    reconcile with its existence in our own wealthier nations? Yet,
    these illegal funds account for a huge part of the system.

    Single currency fever is being spread at a time when there is a
    push for the rest of N. America to shore up the US dollar, 'cause
    it's goin' down. The Security and Prosperity agreement is at work
    here, being peddled by the floundering US government, looking for
    a way to keep up the illusion of prosperity while taking over. It
    would be a disaster for Canada to join the sinking ship that wants
    control. Helping them is dangerous enough, but adopting their
    fears and unsustainable practices, and giving them the reins for
    the sake of the illusion of security and prosperity is another.

    The Federal Reserve is a "reluctant central bank"??? If they
    didn't wish to have control, it never would have been formed in
    the first place! A burden indeed.

    Acquiring gold in this era, in my opinion, is still good advise,
    but potable water and clean green land would be the better bet.

    A single currency will work once we're all eating GM foods, have
    no unique resources left in the world, and have resigned
    completely to a New World Order. That, or the world simultaneously
    achieves peace, prosperity and well-being throughout.

    Cheers,
    Natalia

    Ed Weick wrote:

    Worth thinking about.
Ed
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        Globalization creating a 'deadly brew' for national currencies

    BARRIE MCKENNA

    Globe and Mail

    July 17, 2007 at 8:46 AM EDT

    WASHINGTON -- Hardly a day goes by that someone, somewhere isn't
    griping about currencies.

    In Ontario, embattled Ontario manufacturers rail about the
    suddenly airborne loonie. Members of the U.S. Congress want to
    bash China for fiddling with the yuan. And ordinary Argentines
    would rather hold just about any currency than their own.

    So maybe it's time to rethink the whole idea of national
    currencies. That, at least, is the provocative thesis of Benn
    Steil, director of international economics at the Council on
    Foreign Relations in New York.

    In an article in Foreign Affairs magazine, Mr. Steil suggests
    that scores of countries - from the Americas and Asia to Europe
    and the Middle East - should simply give up on their own
    currencies and embrace one of the world's global currencies, such
    as the euro or the U.S. dollar.

    With the gold standard gone, marginal currencies simply can't
    survive against the sheer weight of globalization. Inflation and
    high interest rates are a constant threat.

    "National currencies and global markets simply do not mix," Mr.
    Steil argued. "Together they make a deadly brew of currency
    crises and geopolitical tension and create ready pretexts for
    damaging protectionism."

    Get rid of monetary nationalism, along with unloved currencies,
    and you'll rid the system of a major source of instability, he
    concluded.

    Mr. Steil points to Europe in the developed world and Ecuador
    (which uses the U.S. dollar) in the developing world as shining
    examples of why fewer currencies are a good thing.

    "Europeans used to say that being a country required having a
    national airline, a stock exchange, and a currency," he wrote.
    "Today, no European country is any worse off without them. Even
    grumpy Italy has benefited enormously from the lower interest
    rates and permanent end to lira speculation."

    China, he suggested, would do well to give up the yuan in favour
    of a "pan-Asian" currency that would rival the euro and the
    dollar, while allowing the country to liberalize its financial
    and capital markets.

    Just about every other country would be better off with the
    dollar or the euro as they gradually integrate into global
    financial markets.

    Even better, he suggested, would be a new gold-based
    international monetary system, backed by private gold banks,
    rather than governments.

    Where does that leave a country such as Canada? Its economy is
    puny compared with the United States or Europe, and the bulk of
    its trade is with its southern neighbour.

    That can be a problem when the currency swings. The loonie's
    recent surge (past 95 cents U.S.) is nice if you're vacationing
    in Maine this summer. But it's pretty devastating if you're
    making auto parts and other manufactured goods for the U.S. market.

    The rest of the Canadian economy - oil, most other commodities
    and the service sector - are humming along fine. The net result
    is an economy that appears much stronger than the United States'
    (3.5-per-cent annualized first-quarter growth vs. 0.7 per cent in
    the U.S.). But pockets of the manufacturing heartland in Ontario
    and Quebec are hurting badly.

    Wouldn't it be nice to have it both ways - stability for
    exporters and an end to currency swings.

    Mr. Steil seems to think so. In an interview, he said Canada
    isn't like Brazil or Turkey, where the threat of a currency
    crisis is ever present.

    "Canada can certainly sustain a national currency, because
    Canadians, as well as foreigners, treat the currency as a
    reliable store of wealth," he said. "Canada is at no significant
    risk of a currency crisis."

    But that doesn't mean Canada couldn't do better. Mr. Steil argued
    that the "economic arguments" for Canada-U.S. monetary
    integration are compelling.

    The main impediments, he suggested, are political, not economic.

    And that's part of the problem. The United States, and more
    specifically, the U.S. Federal Reserve Board, has become a
    reluctant central bank for the world. Its interest rate decisions
    affect borrowing costs and investment yields everywhere.

    As long as the United States acts responsibly, keeping inflation
    low and steady, the rest of the world will be okay.

    But if you suspect Fed chairman Ben Bernanke is drinking and
    driving at the wheel of the global economy, you might want to
    stock up on some gold.

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