Here's a little something for the Free Internet:   REH

If you receive an e-mail entitled "Bedtimes", delete it IMMEDIATELY.
Do not open it!  Apparently this one is pretty nasty.  It will not
only erase everything on your hard drive, but it will also delete
anything on disks within 20 feet of your computer.  It demagnetizes
the strips on ALL of your credit cards.

It reprograms your ATM access code, screws up the tracking on your
VCR and uses subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you
attempt to play.  It will program your phone auto dial to call only
900 numbers. This virus will mix antifreeze into your fish tank.

IT WILL CAUSE YOUR TOILET TO FLUSH WHILE YOU ARE SHOWERING.  It will
drink ALL your beer.  FOR GOD'S SAKE, ARE YOU LISTENING??

It will leave dirty underwear on the coffee table when you are
expecting company.  It will replace your shampoo with Nair and your
Nair with ROGAINE.

If the "Bedtimes" message opened in a Windows 95/98 environment, it
will leave the toilet seat up and leave your hair dryer plugged in
dangerously close to a full bathtub.  It will not only remove the
forbidden tags from your mattresses and pillows, it will also refill
your skim milk with whole milk.

WARN AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN. ******* And if you don't send this
to 5000 people in 20 seconds, you'll fart so hard that your right
leg will spasm and shoot straight out in front of you, sending
sparks that will ignite the person nearest you.

Send to everyone.  If you are a blonde, this is a joke.

Hi Selma,   REH



----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brad McCormick, Ed.D."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Mantle, Rosalyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony, David"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bradskey, Teresa"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cole, Karen Watters"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dawn Anthony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Downs , J
ason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dunn, Darcy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "H, Joan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "harrell, jane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Krueger,
Jack A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sagowa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sleigh,
Ben and Roz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Watters, Valorie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"futurework" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: Whining ("Stop it! And say: 'Thank you'! .... )


> Selma,
>
> As you probably realize, I'm replying to the interesting posts that I put
> on one side to answer later.
>
> I use the word "capitalism" to describe what we have now. Capitalism, in
> practice, is not a lot different from socialism, in practice. They are
both
> mixed economic systems in which there is a divide between the leaders and
> the followers. In both, there are the very well off and the poor.
>
> I approve of a free market system which is the opposite to those mixed
systems.
>
> You say the bottom line for capitalism is making a profit. I assume you
> mean the companies in the economy.
>
> How may that profit be maximized? In an economy that is swollen with
> subsidies, protection, and market regulation - or in a market economy in
> which "cut throat competition" and the "Law of the Jungle" describe the
> arena in which they struggle to supply us with the things we want.
>
> I should say in passing that in any sensible economics, profit has no
> meaning. It is an accounting term meaning an excess of income over outgo.
>
> So you can have a balance - or you can give higher salaries to the owners
> to mop up the balance. Or you can have a "profit" which is really "set
> aside" money for necessary maintenance or new equipment purchase.
>
> Profit is just an accounting term. It doesn't even show a healthy firm.
> Maybe you get a "profit" by not replacing equipment you should replace.
> That's a no-no.
>
> In a free market, how can a "capitalist" (which is all of us) advance its
> own interests? Only by supplying consumers with what they want - and doing
> it better than competing capitalists. Isn't that an excellent way to
> improve the health of the community?
>
> The capitalist who best services the community will achieve the best
> profit. The capitalist who fails to supply the community with what they
> want will go broke - or will need to change his ways.
>
> Do you consider it untangled, Selma?
>
> Harry
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>
> Selma wrote:
>
> >So, maybe you can help me out here, Harry.
> >
> >I need to have someone explain to me how capitalism can exist separately
> >from the power it generates to maximize its own interests as the
> >corporations do when the fix prices and ask for government bail-outs,
etc.
> >etc.
> >
> >The bottom line for capitalism is making a profit; given today's
> >technologies, that's not easily done by small businesses; the logical
> >progression of things (certainly not a new idea-see Karl Marx) is for
> >businesses to become larger and larger until only one dominates in each
> >industry. We are already seeing that progression. The very principle of
> >either get bigger or die seems to me to be antithetical to the idea of
> >competition.
> >
> >What I need explained is, as I said above, how can capitalism be divorced
> >from trying to exert its power in its own interests since capitalism is
> >based on advancing its own interests and not the interests of anyone
else.
> >
> >I know that theoretically, an intelligent capitalist will recognize that
> >her/his interests are served better when the community is healthy but
even
> >theoretically that appears to offer a conflict with making the most
profit.
> >
> >So can someone untangle this for me?
> >
> >Selma
>
>
> ******************************
> Harry Pollard
> Henry George School of LA
> Box 655
> Tujunga  CA  91042
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel: (818) 352-4141
> Fax: (818) 353-2242
> *******************************
>
>

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