Thanks for the difference between C.S. Pierce and Heinlein. One was a lover of brutality while the other was a lover of thought.
REH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ed Weick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Exit ramp for Europe > Lawry, > > The trouble with American democracy is that more and more it's become a > matter of getting bodies to the polling booth that will vote for a slate > without much understanding or thought. > > This is what is behind the policies of making registration easy - voting by > mail - and the other ploys to ensure the warm bodies will be there. > > My impression of the Florida fiasco is that the Demos got the bodies there, > but they forgot to train them how to use the butterflies. > > So, they weren't 'chad conscious'. > > This builds up numbers but is hardly what is thought of as Jeffersonian > Democracy - although see below. > > My parents always voted Labor, but my mother would get a conservative car > to take her to the polling place - where she would vote Labor. > > Back in the beginning of the US, it was common for candidates - including > the most famous - to buy lots of beer and food to entice the voters into > their camps. > > The costs of these mild bribes are found in contemporary papers. > > The most interesting qualification for the franchise is found in Heinlein's > "Starship Troopers" (not the film that was a travesty). > > If you managed to survive the incredibly arduous bootcamp (most didn't and > deserted - but no-one cared) you became a trooper. You would be signed on > for an indeterminate time, keeping the peace, enhancing security, and > punishing Saddams throughout the galaxy. > > If you survived and were eventually mustered out, you became a civilian, a > citizen, and you got the vote. > > To get a vote in your society, you had to be willing to lay your life on > the line for that society. There's a thought, Keith. > > Harry > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Lawrence wrote: > > >Perhaps that answers the question, then, of why these voters don't vote: > >they are ignored in future elections because they haven't voted in the past? > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Fri, May 30, 2003 2:08 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Futurework] Exit ramp for Europe > > > >Perhaps the savvy campaign manger might eventually realize that the > >untapped (and probably uncontested) source of votes is in the slummier > >high rise area? > > > >L > > > >I think she probably knows that. Her husband used to Mayor. The problem > >is time. With so little of it, you concentrate on the known voters. > > > >Ed Weick > > **************************************************** > Harry Pollard > Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles > Box 655 Tujunga CA 91042 > Tel: (818) 352-4141 -- Fax: (818) 353-2242 > http://home.attbi.com/~haledward > **************************************************** > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.484 / Virus Database: 282 - Release Date: 5/27/2003 > _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
