Selma, I certainly agree with you. Rather than expecting men to change, I feel that there is need to set up a training program so that women will be able to steal men's signals.
Bill On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:35:58 -0400 "Selma Singer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is considerable sociological evidence that women are at a > disadvantage > in business relationships precisely, as Bill has noted, because they > do not > have the same experience with sports that boys and men do. > > As a feminist who is not crazy about capitalism, I don't necessarily > believe > that that kind of interaction is necessarily good for human or > societal > development but that is a totally different issue. > > Selma > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work > > > > Ray, > > > > You are absolutely right. A lot of times, men skip important > issues and > > come to a resolution having to do with the power structure of the > group > > or with known vested interests. A lot of times, women realize that > there > > are better ways of dealing with the issue but still are unaware > that the > > power structure has ended discussions. I certainly was not trying > to > > imply that men are better decision makers, just that they are > attune to > > signals coming in from the bench. > > > > Bill > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:10:05 -0400 "Ray Evans Harrell" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > Was the issue truly resolved or was it just that a decision had > been > > > made? > > > > > > REH > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:53 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Why men succeed at work > > > > > > > > > > My hypothesis as to why men do better at work is that men, due > to > > > their > > > > sports and other patterns of interaction, have created > nonverbal > > > and > > > > coded patterns of communication when doing business. I have > seen > > > > situations where negotiations on an issue have ended where > both > > > men and > > > > women are present and women have not realized that a decision > has > > > been > > > > made. > > > > > > > > The males will be moving on to other issues while the woman > is > > > still > > > > discussing the issue unaware that it has been resolved. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:02:18 -0700 Stephen Straker > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > from this week's Economist: > > > > > > > > > > > > <<<< > > > > > > BE A MAN > > > > > > > > > > > > Men compete harder than women. That is why they do better > > > > > > at work ... > > > > > [cut] > > > > > > women > > > > > > and men have different attitudes to competing... > > > > > > > > > > Maybe's men's attitudes towards work and towards their > > > > > fellow workers is part of the PROBLEM ... ("Do unto others > > > > > before they do it unto you", etc.). Many things we have > > > > > talked about on this list over the years would suggest as > > > > > much. > > > > > > > > > > Stephen Straker > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Vancouver, B.C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Futurework mailing list > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Futurework mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > _______________________________________________ > > Futurework mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework