Ray,

How about having bake sales for the new power grid?

Bill

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:04:32 -0400 "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Perhaps they need a National Endowment for Energy to push for 
> federal
> support for electrical production.  (sarcastic in case it isn't 
> obvious.)
> 
> REH
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William B Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Power-ful thoughts and big distractions
> 
> 
> > Seriously,
> >
> > I think that there is an argument for shared Fed/State maintenance 
> of the
> > network and for paying power companies to get the power to the 
> network.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:43:45 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> writes:
> > > It depends.
> > >
> > > Whether you believe in universality or whether you believe in
> > > competition.
> > > Belief plays a strong role here.
> > >
> > > What is one's conception of a "good" society?  What is the 
> dominant
> > > preferred value.  Competition or universality. What sort of 
> balance
> > > should
> > > be established?  When?
> > > (I don't think one can have both)
> > >
> > > arthur
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brad McCormick, Ed.D. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:00 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Futurework] Power-ful thoughts and big distractions
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's how it looks to me:
> > >
> > > The electric power producers want deregulation
> > > so they can make as much profit as possible --
> > > but they want the power grid to be heavily
> > > regulated to guarantee power delivery so that
> > > they will be able to make their
> > > profits without being DISTRACTED (the Bush
> > > word do jour!) by having to make the grid
> > > work.  But a grid robust enough to
> > > handle the unpredictably
> > > fluctuating loads from competition will have to have
> > > substantially more capacity than if it only had
> > > to handle minimized managed transmission
> > > from tightly regulated producers.
> > >
> > > So the empirical question for economists
> > > arises: Which will cost more, for the whole
> > > package of transmission and production:
> > > Deregulated production with extra
> > > transmission capacity, or a less expensive
> > > transmision network with regulated
> > > producers?
> > >
> > > This leads to the SOCIAL question: Even if
> > > competition costs MORE, do we  still want competition
> > > instead of regulation, because
> > > what we want in life is not lower costs,
> > > or leisure or anything else,
> > > but the joys of competition as a good in
> > > and for itself?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Last week, Paul Krugman spoke of:
> > >
> > >      faith-based deregulation
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Also, a senior Bush official described
> > > religious opposition to the U.S. in Iraq as a:
> > >
> > >     distraction
> > >
> > > the U.S. could not afford at this time,
> > > presumably like the possibility of Gore
> > > winning in Nov. 2000 was a DISTRACTION
> > > the Bush admiistration could not aford at that
> > > time.
> > >
> > > \brad mccormick
> > >
> > > --
> > >    Let your light so shine before men,
> > >                that they may see your good works.... (Matt 
> 5:16)
> > >
> > >    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 
> 5:21)
> > >
> > > <![%THINK;[SGML+APL]]> Brad McCormick, Ed.D. / 
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