Dress it up how you wish.
Keith
At 02:38 01/09/03 -0400, you wrote:
Just a note Keith about Yugoslavia. It was the elder Tito and his dealings with the world bank that ghettoized and endebted Yugoslavia and made the most advanced country in the third world with the best health care, education and professional class lose heart and turn against their neighbors allowing old stories to arise from beneath the surface. It was the World Bank and their stringent policies that was the facilitator of the collapse of Yugoslavia.
REH
----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:47 AM Subject: [Futurework] A Sunni Kingdom (was Re: US not an Empire)
> Harry, > > You ask: > > At 19:55 31/08/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >Could there be a clean division between Kurds and Shia, with the Sunni > >going in the direction of their choice? > > Of course there could be. Starting with a portion of Baghdad and then going > westwards in a widening triangle to the border of Syria, the Sunnis could > easily be given their own kingdom, or sheikhdom or ayatollahdom or whatever. > > The situation in Iraq is identical to the situation that was in Yugoslavia. > It's identical because human nature is identical in both cases -- and in > many more that have occurred throughout history. In Yugoslavia, Tito > managed to hold the Serbs, Croats and the Moslems together under an > overarching ideology. When he died, the place fell apart. The newly > invented conglomeration of Iraq was held together by the British, and then > it was held together by dictators, the last being Saddam. > > I could go on and on and on. There are still enmities between the Welsh and > the Scottish and the English in the UK, despite unification which took > place hundreds of years ago in both cases. The United States is not a > united place -- the poverty of the Alabamans, the Mexicisation of > California, Chinatown within San Francisco, the political clique in > Washington -- all 'tribes' which are greatly different from one another > with different agendas despite the common language and the common electoral > system. I can imagine circumstances in which America could fall apart in > the next few decades (particularly as oil becomes expensive and times > become really hard -- and I mean harder than the 1920/30s). > > As you know, you can unite people -- or, rather, they can act reasonably > peacefully towards one another when they can trade together. But otherwise, > we are still a 'small group' species. The nation-state is just a passing > phenomenon. It is too large for most problems and too small for some (very > big) ones. The Swiss know how to do it better than most, even without the > benefit of the modern human sciences -- they had the mountains to help them! > > It's about time that wannabe politicians are given an education in > anthropology, evolutionary psychology, genetics and several other pertinent > 'ologies to do with the real nature of the human species and not what they > would like it to be before their names are allowed to appear on the ballot > paper. They are, at present, simply TV entertainers who are expert at body > language and the glib statement and sometimes even dress up in army uniform > and very little more than that. They are good at fooling people for shorter > or longer periods of time, but that's about all. And that's what it's been > ever since we ceased being hunter-gatherers and tried to start > civilisation. The human race can be forgiven for making a mess of things up > until relatively recently, but now that we are just beginning to understand > ourselves scientifically, then we can't forgive ourselves for very much longer. > > > Keith Hudson, 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath, England, > <www.evolutionary-economics.org> > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework >
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