Interesting point Keith,

If that is true then why did they make such a mess in places like
Yugoslavia, Chile, Argentina etc.

REH


----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: [Futurework] Is America about to go down the drain?


> In my opinion, the very best writers on economics these days are not
> academic economists or government ones (not that they're allowed to say
> much), but those who work for the big investment banks. Such writers
cannot
> afford to be too theoretical, or speculative, or misleading in the
> slightest way because they have the reputation of their firm to consider.
> In fact, in the case of two of them, Stephen Roach and Stephen King, a
> considerable part of the reputation of Morgan  Stanley and the HSBC bank
> depends on the balance and grasp of their writings. Whatever Stephen Roach
> and Stephen King write one day is always quoted and regurgitated by many
> other economic journalists in the following days -- the sincerest form of
> flattery.
>
> In today's article in the Independent, Stephen King writes that the
> American economy is *not* too big to collapse. Indeed, the inference is
> that it is bound to do so one day. You can be certain that the policy of
> the HSBC bank (one of the most successful in the world over the past 20
> years) will depend on Stephen King's words rather than Greenspan's or
> Snow's words even though the latter reach the headlines more easily.
>
> <<<<
> IS AMERICA'S ECONOMY REALLY TOO BIG TO GO DOWN THE DRAIN?
>
> The US will only be able to expand so long as the rest of the world is
> prepared to provide the funds
>
> Stephen King
>
> "It's too big to fail." A common enough argument, perhaps, but also one
> that smacks a little too much of complacency. After all, one might have
> thought that the New York power supply was "too big to fail" but fail it
> did. A foreigner -- not, though, a jaded Londoner -- might have thought
> that the London Underground was "too big to fail" but it, too, gave up the
> ghost for a short time last week. The US army is "too big to fail" in Iraq
> although recent developments do, somehow, make you wonder.
>
> The biggest example of all, though, may be the US economy, the $10
trillion
> powerhouse that dominates the world stage. Can it fail? The answer,
surely,
> is a resounding "no". It's not in the interests of US politicians for the
> US economy to fail. Nor is it in the interests of beleaguered Europeans,
> facing a moribund domestic economy. After all, who else would they be able
> to export to? And Asian economies certainly would not want to see the US
> economy failing -- they have become increasingly dependent on inflows of
US
> capital which, in turn, have led to rising incomes and better jobs.
>
> So, hang out the bunting, get the music on, it's time to party. The US
> economy appears to be recovering. US consumers are still spending, the
> government has its foot on the accelerator, companies have regained their
> appetite for investing and growth is picking up. Europeans can lick their
> lips at the thought of more export demand and Asians can look forward to
> their own slice of the pick-up in US capital spending. Once again, the US
> has come along to save the world.
>
> There is, however, a little snag with this story. The US did well in the
> late 1990s in part because other countries were happy to lend to it. This
> can be seen most obviously through the growth of America's current account
> deficit. America was spending more than it was producing and it needed
> foreign resources to fund the gap. Put another way, America ran a capital
> account surplus: there was more capital flooding into the US from the rest
> of the world than capital leaving the US to go elsewhere.
>
> It's not the first time that the US has managed to pull off this trick.
The
> US has run large capital account surpluses -- or current account deficits
> -- in the past. However, previous US recessions have taken away this
> dependency on foreign capital: the US would end up back in current account
> surplus, no longer dependent on the rest of the world's savings. This "no
> such thing as a free lunch" model provided a degree of constraint on what
> the US could get away with: a recession was a timely reminder that the US
> could not realistically expect to consume beyond its means on an
indefinite
> basis
>
> In all previous US recessions, the growth of domestic demand --
> consumption, government spending and investment -- ended up weaker in the
> US than in other industrialised countries. Rather than the rest of the
> world ending up in bed with a cold as a result of a US sneeze, this was
> more a case of US pneumonia with the rest of the world suffering only a
few
> limited aches and pains.
>
> This time round, though, the story is very different: the US has only had
a
> very mild dose of flu; other parts of the world, notably Europe, have
ended
> up in the economic equivalent of intensive care, growing only at about 1%
> last year while the US grew at 2.5% (with Japan at 2.0% and the UK at
> 1.75%) The US may have had a recession but, on this occasion, the
recession
> did nothing to remove America's dependency on the savings being made in
> other parts of the world. The usual closure of the US current account
> deficit has, therefore, not taken place. Should we worry?
>
> Let me first make the positive case, the argument that suggests that an
> ever-wider US current account deficit is a good thing.
>
>  From a US policy-making perspective, the case for a bigger current
account
> deficit rests on three foundations. First, there's the simple argument
> that, if the rest of the world is not prepared to play its part in
> stimulating global growth, the US might as well just get on with it. If
the
> wider current account deficit can't be financed through foreign capital
and
> the dollar has to come down, this might also be a good thing: a lower
> dollar might, for example, force the Europeans into loosening policy more
> aggressively than might otherwise have been the case.
>
> Second, there's the economic supremacy argument: if the US can offer
better
> growth than anyone else, it makes perfect sense for foreigners to buy US
> assets and, hence, support continued US economic expansion.
>
> Third, there's the "wise investor" argument: that although capital
> continues to pour into the US on a net basis, the returns on US capital
> invested abroad are higher than foreign returns invested in the US. As a
> result, the cost of financing the current account deficit is not so high
> after all. It's a bit like borrowing some money from one bank, spending
> some of it but re-investing the rest in another bank at such a high rate
of
> interest thatyou are no worse off.
>
> Now let me say what's wrong with these positive arguments. First of all,
> the idea that the US can save the rest of the world is a little bit
> topsy-turvy The US will only be able to expand so long as the rest of the
> world is prepared to provide the necessary funds. The problem, however, is
> that an expanding US current account deficit requires more and more funds
> each year. No bank, surely, would agree to such an arrangement and it is
> difficult to see why the rest of the world will be prepared to plough more
> and more of its savings into the US economy in the years ahead. At some
> point, the US has got to deliver decent returns to its foreign creditors,
> which seems to undermine the "wise investor" argument outlined above.
>
> Then there's the economic supremacy argument. The main reason for US
growth
> out-performance in recent years has been consumer spending: overall growth
> might be stronger in the US but it is difficult to see why the rest of the
> world should see the advantages of funding yet another Uncle Sam car
> purchase -- the ultimate depreciating asset. Foreigners will ultimately
> expect to see some return on their investments: if the benefits reside
> instead with US consumers, it's less likely that capital will continue to
> flow into the US.
>
> As for the wise investor argument, why not just cut out the middleman? It
> may be true at the moment that returns on US investments made abroad are
> higher than returns on foreign investments made in the US. But it is
> difficult to see why the rest of the world should be content with this
> arrangement forever. Either the rest of the world will invest the money
> itself, thereby cutting out the US as a middleman, or the US will
> eventually recognise that its investments abroad have become excessively
> risky (and I'm thinking here not just of economic risk but, increasingly
> these days, of political risk as well).
>
> That the US is showing signs of recovery seems to be good news. That "the
> recovery is happening against the background of a very large current
> account deficit is more disturbing. We may think of the rest of the world
> as being dependent on the US but, increasingly, the US itself is dependent
> on the rest of the world. This delicate balancing act may not continue
> forever: someone may eventually fall off the high-wire and, so far, it's
> not at all obvious that there's any form of safety net below. Too big to
> fail? I hope so, because failure is just too painful to contemplate.
>
> Stephen King is managing director of economics at HSBC.
>
> Independent -- 1 September 2003
>  >>>>
>
>
> Keith Hudson, 6 Upper Camden Place, Bath, England,
> <www.evolutionary-economics.org>
>
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