I think it will happen much faster.  But I can "see" Harry shaking his head
so I thought I would really go out in time.

arthur

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Bravo Arthur,

But are we really that slow?

REH


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> OK, let's imagine 100 years from now.  Are we still "going to work"?
> Commuting?  Creating jobs? Establishing policies for growth?
>
> I think the entire production process will go the way of agriculture and
> shrink to 3 or 4 percent of the workforce.  I think the notion of play, of
> sabbaticals, of self development will be very important.
>
> I think we will look back on some of our accepted policies in much the
same
> way as we look back on the use of children in mines, mills and weaving.
>
> Still shaking your head Harry?  So go out 200 years in time.  At some
point
> jobs and growth will cease to be a way of distributing income.  At this
> point some form of basic income will happen.
>
> Of course the education system will have to shift from "learning to make a
> living" to "learning to cope with living".
>
> Stay tuned.
>
> Arthur
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> From: Harry Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Karen,
>
> This one has gone into my archives - as do so many of your posts.
>
> However, I don't think very much of his conclusions. This great mountain
of
> an economy rests on those who actually make things. However computerized
we
> get, someone has to produce food, clothing, and shelter. And most of these
> jobs require hard work.
>
> There again, the society is run by the middle-class professionals who are
> working longer, taking fewer holidays - getting well paid generally for
not
> seeing a lot of their families.
>
> It's been a utopian dream that everyone will have no more than (say) a 20
> hour work week, with the labor being attractive and meaningful, while the
> pay is huge.
>
> This provided the impetus for the piece.
>
> But, it's a dream. The reality is very different.
>
> What a pity.
>
> Harry
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Karen wrote:
>
> >Selma, this might be of interest.  Forwarded to me. - KWC
> >
> >The Play Ethic @
>
><http://www.theplayethic.com/pages/172935/index.htm>http://www.theplayethic
> .com/pages/172935/index.htm
> >"Play will be to the 21st century what work was to the last 300 years of
> >industrial society - our dominant way of knowing, doing and creating
> >value."  Pat Kane
> >
> >and from one of its pages, "living creatively in the new century" @
>
><http://www.theplayethic.com/pages/868006/index.htm>http://www.theplayethic
> .com/pages/868006/index.htm
> >
> >Scotland on Sunday, 05Jan1997UK: WHEN ANGELS GUIDE THE HANDS OF IDLENESS.
> >Has the time come to abandon the Protestant work ethic? As technology
> >advances and the structure of work changes, Pat Kane suggests a
different,
> >more creative philosophy to suit the new era
> >
> >DOES the devil necessarily make work for idle hands? The most momentous
> >changes in the structure of employment are upon us: it is time we looked
> >anew at our oldest prejudices. With the information age transforming all
> >social co-ordinates, we should think about a replacement for the work
> >ethic - in a world where work, as we know it, is evaporating before our
> >eyes. I bid for the play ethic.
> >Some may react negatively: can play be ethical? To be sure, we have a
long
> >historical precedent for the ethics of 'work'. Employment became 'good
for
> >the soul' in the early 19th century. Britain's capitalist class faced a
> >workforce growing debauched, unruly and radical. They had been dragged
> >from rural self-subsistence into the punishing regimes of factory labour,
> >and were coping none too well with the booms and slumps of early
> capitalism.
> >The 'Protestant work ethic', as defined by sociologist Max Weber, was
> >intended to discipline the early proletariat - through spiritual, as well
> >as monetary, means. Large churches spread throughout the industrial
cities
> >of Britain, expounding the virtues of honest, upright labour to their
> >flock, via well-chosen Gospel precepts. "In the sweat of thy face thou
> >shalt eat bread" (Genesis 3:19). "If any would not work, neither should
he
> >eat" (2 Thessalonians 3:10).
> >This notion of the work ethic has an extraordinary tenacity, even as we
> >progress through the Second Industrial Revolution. There is still no more
> >basic formation of personal esteem than our job: and there is still no
> >more basic shame than our unemployment. From Blair to Major, idle hands
> >are still presumed to be jumping to the devil's work. What else motivates
> >the cross-party admonitions against welfare 'dependency', and the move
> >towards workfare schemes, other than a fear of what the unemployed will
do
> >with their enforced free-time: take drugs, procreate, slump before
> >screens, occupy the streets, get involved in the black economy ...?
> >The 'Protestant' aspect of the work ethic is still strong here, raising
> >deep emotions of guilt and resentment. The employed are encouraged to
> >regard their leisure, their play-time, as compensation for the
punishments
> >of work: thus the often frantic nature of their recreation, chasing one
> >intensity after another, fuelling consumer society. Yet the idea of the
> >unemployed having access to even a portion of this leisure, without
paying
> >its price in the ardours of work, threatens to reveal the absurdity of
the
> >lifestyle of the employed - they are working too hard, playing too hard,
> >endlessly chasing their tails.
> >The moral rectitude of the Blairite project augurs well for a revitalised
> >work ethic - in the form of national duty, the main virtue binding
> >together all parts of the social spectrum, from the newly-defined
> >'job-seeker' to the 'stakeholding' company executive.
> >The objection to this is simple: how can you sustain a work ethic, when
> >work itself is deconstructing before our very eyes? The massive shifts
> >towards short-term contracts, part-time work, self-employment and
> >manufacturing-to-services are well enough documented. Their causes - new
> >technology, global competition, individualism - are recognised and
> >accepted by most of us. And it is a standby of current social thought
that
> >the relentless automation of labour - mental and manual - is laying in
> >store an unemployment problem of massive proportions.
> >Around 75% of the labour force in any industrial nation is doing little
> >more than simple repetitive tasks, and is thus potentially automatable:
> >less than 5% of companies round the world have begun to use new
> >technologies fully in their workplace (an excerpt from Jeremy Rifkin's
The
> >End of Work).
> >The forthcoming clash of party-political nationalisms in the UK is a mere
> >distraction to this coming holocaust of employment - which will do away
> >with humans, says the Nobel laureate economist Wassily Leontief, "in the
> >same way that the role of horses in agricultural production was first
> >diminished, and then eliminated, by the introduction of tractors".
> >Devotion to the work ethic, in a time where work (as traditionally
> >conceived) is disappearing, will only result in greater gloom and despair
> >than necessary. To propose a 'play ethic' may seem like suggesting we
> >fiddle while Rome burns; a degraded messing-about in the social ruins of
> >cyber-capitalism. Yet if we can bring the same moral fervour to the
values
> >of openness, creativity and self-realisation as we have done to those of
> >obedience, discipline and self-regulation, then we may yet make a triumph
> >of what appears to be an impending civilisational disaster.
> >Intellectually at least, the case can be made for play's virtues.
> >Psychologist DW Winnicott cited play as the "creation of personality" -
> >that exciting sharing of self and world that make new ideas possible.
> >The Dutch historian Johan Huizinga has called us Homo Ludens: in that
> >exhaustive book, he states that "pure play is one of the main bases of
> >civilisation". And in the sciences of complexity, play is regarded as the
> >central process that brings order to the chaos of natural creation - in
> >the words of biologist Brian Goodwin, "our creativity is essentially
> >similar to the creativity that is the stuff of evolution".
> >Practically speaking, the play ethic can be applied most readily in the
> >realm of education. Most of those who are joining further and higher
> >education, as a means of lifting themselves away from obsolete or
> >declining jobs, find the experience to be more than just a reskilling
> >exercise. From the perspective of the work ethic, students have always
> >been regarded as slightly suspect - and rightly so. The activity of
> >reading books, being taught and socialising for two to four years always
> >had far too much autonomy in it for the wage-enslaved.
> >Even with the utilitarian strictures now placed on education, the most
> >vocational business or marketing degree will make connections to areas of
> >psychology, social theory, philosophy - knowledge that will often
> >transform the student into someone with a radically self-directed
> >mentality. This builds what the sociologist Anthony Giddens calls the
> >"autotelic" self - someone who has an inner confidence based on
> >self-respect, whose happiness is prior to their position in the
> >marketplace or the organisation.
> >It is precisely these balanced, autonomous selves - the bearers of a play
> >ethic - that info-capitalism needs to thrive. Their principles of
> >creativity, empathy and innovation were never more appropriate to the
> >service-driven, decentralised organisations of our times.
> >Over the next decade (and despite electoral posturings), it is more than
> >likely that most European governments, faced with the implosion of work,
> >will be forced to implement fundamental changes in their welfare system
> >and the labour market. Much shorter working weeks, technology taxes,
> >perhaps even a citizen's income, may be the only coherent responses to
the
> >upheavals of a hyper-productive capitalism. In this climate, work won't
> >just be quantitatively a lesser part of people's lives, but qualitatively
> >too. Will the fundamental idea of 'useful toil' - that effort required
for
> >society to function - begin to decay, in a haze of leisured hedonism?
> >Yet the idea of a play ethic implies just that - an ethical stance
towards
> >play that moves away from the idea of leisure as purely individualistic
> >and undemanding. A play ethic would be social, concerned with the
> >pleasures of others as well as oneself; it would be effortful and
> >demanding, setting itself performance targets and goals; it would make
> >possible intense experiences, alone and with others.
> >There will be a place for 'useful toil' - or a minimalist work ethic - in
> >such a culture of creativity and play. If we can make the needed
> >structural and attitudinal changes to cope with the end of work, angels
> >will surely guide the hands of idleness.
> >If not, then the devil of social division will have his claws on all our
> >wrists.
> >
> >Source: UNITED KINGDOM
> >SCOTLAND ON SUNDAY 5/1/97 P16
>
>
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