Look, I wasn't taking my minister seriously.  I don't even know if I have a
soul, let alone if animals do.  If I get to Heaven, the first thing I'll do
is whistle, and hopefully all of the fidos and puss-cats I've ever owned
will come bounding out and we'll all have a great walk together!

Ed


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: You are naive (was Re: [Futurework] Walmart and the American
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> If you plant a living human like a plant we appear too dumb to survive.
> Apparently we are too dumb to understand what you are saying.    What is
> consciousness to one is instinct to another.   We are all connected.
>
> Ray Evans Harrell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: You are naive (was Re: [Futurework] Walmart and the American
> dream
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Ed Weick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>From: Ray Evans Harrell
> > >>
> > >>>From: Ed Weick
> > >>>
> > >>>Experiments did not end with the death of the twins. Dissection of
the
> > >>>corpses for final medical analysis is well documented by Nyiszli
> > >>>and by Lifton. (http://www.candles-museum.com/mengele.htm)
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you imagine anything more bizarre?
> > >>>
> > >>>    Ed
> > >>
> > >> Yes,
> > >>
> > >>  Animal experimentation.
> > >>
> > >>  REH
> > >
> > >Ah yes, but a church minister I know says that animals don't have
souls,
> > >so it's probably OK.
> > >
> > >Ed
> >
> > So this ties in quite nicely with that reporter's incredulity that
> > pleasure centres could exist in the brains of "lower" animals and
> > probably have for 200 million years. Apparently the popular view
> > is that we act from the experience of desires and pleasures, but
> > all other animals are robots whose instincts are like the programming
> > of a soulless machine. A smooth continuum from unconscious to
> > conscious must present too many inconvenient implications to be
> > countenanced...
> >
> >  -Pete
> >
> >
> >
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