Arthur,

Well asked!

I fear the tragedy is needed to get a bureaucracy moving.

I'm not against government. However, government is not needed to
do things that we cannot do for ourselves -- the usual banality.
Rather, government comes into play when the situation cannot be
controlled by the market.

Infrastructure, and particularly roads and sewers and such like,
are the responsibility of government. The Libertarians have a
potty view that roads should be privatized. I have a vague memory
that the IMF in Argentina imposed a policy of private roads. But,
my memory may be at fault. In any event, the idea is silly.

So, roads, sewers, local utility supply, telephones while they
are tied to poles along the side of the street, cannot face
competition and should be treated with the same formula I have
described to Brad.

The "rolling stock" should belong to the community. The running
of the operations should be done privately, that is by
performance bonded private management firms chosen by low bid.
They are the basics.

I think the community should have a police force and the central
legal system. I think much of the policing can be done by private
organizations -- as is done now. In fact, there are more "
rent-a-cop" in the US than their are regular police.

A highly professional  fire prevention system runs in the suburbs
of Phoenix. They use the most modern methods of fighting fires
(their remote-controlled machines are sold to many other
services). It's a volunteer system. When the fire bell rings,
office managers are happy to let their personnel go off to fight
the fire and so they should.

Their insurance premiums are much lower because of the efficient
firefighting.

Ask any libertarian. They'll tell you all about it.

They won't tell you about Grants Pass, Oregon. The city tried to
install a private system of firefighting, but it failed
miserably.

Should education be privatized? I have already gone into that in
another recent post. I think the competitive arena would be good
for teaching. Nothing has been so bureaucratized as education.

However, whether education should be privatized is far less
important than our choosing the system that provides the best
possible education to the greatest number of young people.

We should ensure that young people have finished their education
before they go off to college or university.

Harry

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When corporate lathes run oval, the company loses business to
competitors.
There is a competitive incentive to keep capital in repair.

When county bridges fall into disrepair from lack of
maintenance---what then??  

arthur



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Arthur,

As students read in my economic class, part of the job of Capital
is to replace itself. It must also provide Interest enough for
the lender to lend, and provide Labor with enough production
advantage for it to be worth borrowing. They are the three jobs
of Capital.

When things are tough, the easiest thing for both corporations
and governments to do is to delay (or forget) the replacement of
Capital.

No-one notices that the corporate lathes haven't been replaced in
the machine shops - even though they are going downhill fast -
perhaps producing ovals rather than circles.

No-one notices that bridges, dams, and roads are patched rather
than maintained. (People do notice and complain about the
potholes which gets them a little tar - but little regular
maintenance).

In the US there are apparently umpteen thousands of pieces of
infrastructure that have been "forgotten" while bureaucratic
pensions are increased.

As the direction of an advancing economy is toward cheaper
manufactures, one must wonder why you blame these deficiencies on
Wal-Mart. You have your present standard of living because of the
constant market pressure downward on prices.

But, you know that.

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Harry, we are living through the "race to the bottom"

Looks good for a while.  Wait until the bottom comes to a place
near you.

Why replace and keep infrastructure in good shape?  Why maintain
universal public health standards and health care?

Maintaining standards in society is like keeping the mold at bay
in your shower.  You can let things go for a while.  Relax and do
other things.  But the mold is still "doing its thing" 

arthur



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Arthur,

What steep price to the "national community" will be incurred by
people being able to buy good qualities at lower prices.

By golly, you sound like the local Chamber of Commerce, or any of
the national corporate monopolies.

Harry
 

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Quote from the Ruth Rosen article:

"Now, the challenge is to convince Contra Costa County voters
that the lowest possible prices come at a steep price for the
entire community."

arthur suggest,

The lowest possible prices may come at a steep price for the
national community as well (despite Harry P's protestations to
the contrary)


Great, you think. I'll apply. But Wal-Mart won't hire its own
workers because the corporation isn't sure it's legal to use them
to promote a political campaign.


When you realize that Wal-Mart will pay higher wages to those
campaigning to keep your wages low, you get angry - which is how
I've learned about the Arkansas retailer's countywide plans to
repeal the ordinance.


Last June, the Contra Costa Country Board of Supervisors passed
the ban when it recognized that Wal-Mart's seductive low prices
come with hidden costs to residents. The retailer's subsistence
wages drive down the pay of other workers; its huge super-centers
undermine local small businesses and create more traffic
congestion. Taxpayers, moreover, end up paying for workers'
health care because they can't afford costly benefits on such low
pay.


In response, Wal-Mart - which never takes no for an answer -
immediately parachuted in paid workers to gather 27,000
signatures to force supervisors to either rescind the ban or
place the issue before the voters. Supervisors have put the
question on the March 2 ballot.


To fight off these restrictions, Wal-Mart has just launched a
campaign to convince the community to vote "no." At its Martinez,
Pittsburg and Antioch stores, Wal-Mart has hung banners and
posters advertising its new "Consumer Action Network (CAN)," a
rather transparent effort to persuade shoppers to vote against
the limiting ordinance.


Last week, workers at Wal-Mart handed out flyers that describe
CAN as a "good government" program. (Many low-income shoppers,
who receive some form of government assistance, might mistakenly
think CAN is a government-sponsored program.)


In exchange for signing a membership card (and providing your
personal information), you get "a personal membership card, free
newsletters, important bulletins and an invitation to special
events."


You also get a chance to fill out a voter registration
application, which is conveniently mailed to Wal-Mart's CAN,
rather than to the registrar of voters. If you want more
information, you are referred to an 800 telephone number.


But 20 calls to the number elicited the same response: "Only
'Kathy' knows about the program, she's on the other line, so just
leave your name and number." Is it conceivable that Wal-Mart has
hired only one person who is familiar with CAN? Or is this just a
ploy to gather names and phone numbers to enlist shoppers in its
political campaign?


Meanwhile, a coalition of community activists is gearing up to
support the ordinance. They include the nonprofit group ACORN,
which promotes affordable housing and open space; union members;
and religious, environmental and "smart growth" organizations.
But they face a formidable enemy - the largest corporation in the
world, which has unlimited funds to reach their intended goal of
building 40 new super-centers in California.


Supervisor John Gioia knows that "Wal-Mart will have a great
advantage. It will also turn it into an anti-union campaign. So
we need to appeal to the good sense of Contra Costa County voters
and explain that this is about losing open space and taxpayers
subsidizing Wal-Mart. It's also about Contra Costa County - not
Wal-Mart executives in Bentonville, Ark. - having the right to
make its own decisions about local planning. "


Now, the challenge is to convince Contra Costa County voters that
the lowest possible prices come at a steep price for the entire
community.


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