Appropriate for any time.
 
Ed
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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: Toward a spiritual renaissance

 
I invite you all to re-visit Allen Ginsberg's Howl.
 
Appropriate for the times.
 
 
 
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From: Darryl and Natalia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ed Weick; Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Toward a spiritual renaissance

Hi Lawry,
 
Your hope for guidance from Canada to help the US find its way toward peaceful resolve is by far more logical than anything that is likely to transpire. It is flattering to Canadians, yet I don't believe that Canada, in these days of increasingly influential corporate agendas, is necessarily the country to lead the way as a beacon. I will second Ed's opinion of Paul Martin's intended directions and would concur that we are not far behind the U.S. in arriving at some huge seeming impasses.
 
I don't believe you are looking exclusively at a Western decline in morals and culture. I believe that that is a global symptom of collective guilt, and heaven is where you are if you are willing to choose for it. Relocating for the sake of leading the way by example is tempting, but in the long run merely results in another distraction, another imagined separation from the so-called "evil" around you. With such judgment, you presume a position you do not have, and will augment your fears. Trust in the world, do what you feel is right and help others by walking ahead of them a little as you can easily do, Lawry, but if you give up your own sense of peace because of insanity in one or many, you give up on humanity. In so doing you show the world that peace cannot triumph, that it is in itself unattainable, and forgiveness impossible. I'm sure you know that peace is not only true, but is the only thing that does work, and it is a choice from moment to moment. I suspect you may also understand that forgiveness is the closest thing that we have to heaven on earth. Trust in the world and all life because it is governed by a power that is in all of us, but not of us.
 
This having been said, I wish to clarify that should the world simply ignore error, we allow ourselves to be misled, and do a disservice to both the victim and the victimizer. If we or others are not accountable, no progress transpires. The Whitehouse appears to be the monster today, but tomorrow will reveal other monsters behind the puppet government.
 
When I was in Maui about 16 years ago, there had been but one or two serious crimes on the island for many years prior.
People were friendly and warm. It was not overly tourist-ridden, and I looked forward to its independence from the U.S., but never thought that possible. We heard from Darryl's Ex, who was living on the big island, that the few remaining royal  Hawaiian descendants were planning secession, and then came Ray's article on the very same thread that a document was submitted to Congress after all. New York in 1980 or so, following the Canadian assisted rescue of prisoners in Iran, was so open to Canadians that Darryl and I were given free lunches in a restaurant and even free clothing in Manhattan just for being Canadian. Things change all the time. Mecca is no longer Mecca, but it is and never really was. Americans are just as capable of sanity as they are capable of being misled, and it is within them as it is within Iraqis to find their own way out of fear. If and when they are ready for international input, it will surely be there, though that help may take a different form than anticipated.
 
Being vigilant to a politician's psyche by observing facial nuances and the like, though fascinating to observe, will not necessarily lead you much closer to truth behind the scenes. We already know that Bush is far more insane than the rest of us, and that most news we seek out with regard to his actions basically boils down to the same news event, over and over-- Just how insane is he? Or anyone in that position of power? The Bush administration was established by other far more influential people, and therefore Bush's team may well be the last to know what's going down. Economies change, new people seem to emerge as threats, money begets more money and poverty sux. Wars are ongoing worldwide, and our judgment of the U.S. certainly takes our minds off of The District of Congo, the twenty million baby girls who are murdered by their own parents for being the wrong sex, or the countless other holocausts of history. The policy of scapegoating the "evil" onto a nation outside of our own is the same one we apply to our personal lives when we project. We must do what we can to deny what is not truth, to remove the blocks to love within and then of course do our best to ensure that government policies reflect that in just governance. Though the US is most influential, it is abundantly clear that lately its guidance has been selective and self-serving. But that will change. It will grow out of the adolescent stage to earnestly embrace other nations--down the road. Be patient with its fears as much as with your own.
 
One thing that is crystal clear to me is that trying to solve the world's problems over my own lifetime is investment in fear. There have been thousands of civilizations that fractured fear into what it has become, and it will take time, as long as it takes, to undo it before we all invest in what really matters. What is important is to live in your own mind with peace at your side, and to remember that healing does not come from treating symptoms, but from taking form around a peaceful attitude of mind and thereby changing the content. If we ourselves are not peaceful, we cannot be truly kind or helpful. We do not react to fact, we react to interpretations around a fact. By making our perceptions real, we try to offer ingenious ways of solving problems, political, economic, religious or social, to magically escape from them. But upon making these interpretations real, we cannot escape from them in order to stand back and look at them in a clear light. Ego mind is always trying to understand what is initiated by itself. It's the classic revolving door syndrome. Peace and Do Unto Others is also a dream, but one that will sit better with your thoughts than the chronic anxiety of feeling that you and like-minded must be the ones to rescue the world.
 
Form through which we communicate is not important. Places and things, special people, rituals and prayers are not important. What is significant is the love that speaks through us when we join with the love that is in us but not of us, the love that joins with truth (higher self), and connects with that place of peace in others that we all share. 
 
I read that when Beethoven's close friend's husband had died, he did what he felt he could do that was most helpful. He said to her, "Tonight we shall speak together in tones", then simply sat down to the piano and played to her for two and a half hours. She was much relieved.   
 
Natalia
 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:06 AM
Subject: Toward a spiritual renaissance (was RE: [Futurework] Be a good little beaver for Uncle Sam!)

Yes, good point. I would guess that the differences in values within the US is greater than those between, collectively, the US and Canada.
 
Someone earlier (Ed?) wondered whether Canada was losing its own way. (Sorry for the lack of precise attribution: I have been for the last two weeks embroiled in complicated and time-consuming negotiations and and skipping lightly on my list-reading...)  I hope this isn't happening. The West, generally, is in my growing opinion in deep trouble, morally, culturally. We very much need a place or places where this degradation is not happening, both to serve as a haven for those who do not wish to remain part of the degradation, and to serve eventually as a resource through which the West can rebuild itself.
 
I can think of no more important a priority than this.
 
Lawry
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, November 18, 2003 11:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Be a good little beaver for Uncle Sam!

The current issue of the Economist contains a review of the US that suggests rather wide ranging differences and growing divergences in values there as well.
 
Ed
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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Be a good little beaver for Uncle Sam!

Further to this you may be interested in the book: 
 
Fire and Ice: The United States and Canada and the Myth of Converging Values by Michael Adams.
 
Adams  runs Environics, a polling firm of some repute in Canada.  His sampling of opinion (over a very wide range of values/issues) shows the differing values between Canadians and Americans and within the US itself where there are surprisingly wide regional spreads.
 
arthur
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From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 4:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; futurework
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Be a good little beaver for Uncle Sam!

Lawry:
 
Times are very difficult, and require a surer, more granular, and more disciplined treatment than is normally the case. Missteps at this time can create very bad results. I would hope that Canada's historical ability to see the moral light and policy essentials will again prevail, and that Canada may be able to help the US learn what it must, but by ignoring the US's mistakes, but by guiding the US to their resolution.
 
My fear, Lawry, is that Canada may also have lost its way and that our moral light has faded since Pearson and Trudeau were Prime Ministers.  Chretien, who is about to leave the scene, is a very bright man, but a pragmatist, not an idealist.  To his credit, he kept us out of the "coalition of the willing", but he has not offered anything as an alternative except the rather tired idea that if the UN goes along with it, we'll go too, knowing full-well that the UN would not.  I read Martin, the incoming Prime Minister, as a neo-con whose major concern will be keeping the deficit down and improving the economy, including trade relations with the US.  And to improve trade relations with the US we have to pretend to support what the US Administration is doing, don't we?
 
The light of higher purpose still shines on in Canada, but you increasingly have to look for it.  One sees it in people like Romeo Dallaire, the general who almost single-handedly tried to stop the blood bath in Rwanda, but I'm afraid we're not going to find it in our politicians.
 
Ed
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Futurework] Be a good little beaver for Uncle Sam!

Good morning, Ed,
 
The single most important task that lies ahead for the US is to learn what it must learn so as to be able to start playing a positive and helpful role in the world. At this point, we are doing the very opposite, so the learnings will have to be profound and cognitively revolutionary.  Any reassurances that those who are the present creators of the US's current policies receive, whether they come from other US citizens or from foreign sources, will only serve to delay those learnings and ensure a continuation of the present policies. 
 
I do not believe that is in the interests of anybody, whether US citizen or citizen of some other country, for anyone to engage in behavior that allows the current US policy-makers to believe that they have done right.
 
Times are very difficult, and require a surer, more granular, and more disciplined treatment than is normally the case. Missteps at this time can create very bad results. I would hope that Canada's historical ability to see the moral light and policy essentials will again prevail, and that Canada may be able to help the US learn what it must, but by ignoring the US's mistakes, but by guiding the US to their resolution.
 
Many of us here in the US remember the help of Canada with the hostages and Americans in Iran. We remember Canada's sterling record in peace-keeping, and international development assistance. We remember the contributions of Canadians to the arts and domestic life in the US. Canada has a great standing in the eyes of US citizens, and it would be wonderful if Canada could use some of this standing to help the US find its way to becoming that better citizen of the world.
 
Cheers,
Lawry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ed Weick
Sent: Mon, November 17, 2003 8:57 AM
To: futurework
Subject: [Futurework] Be a good little beaver for Uncle Sam!

There are times when, as a Canadian, I feel a little less than proud of my country's political leaders.  This is one of them.

I see by today’s local paper, the Ottawa Citizen, that Canadian Federal opposition members are demanding that Prime Minister-to-be Paul Martin's first order of business this week must be to phone U.S. President George W. Bush to arrange a meeting that will begin the process of repairing badly damaged Canada-U.S. relations. The softwood lumber crisis, mad cow disease and the Iraq war are just three issues he should address with Mr. Bush immediately, not to mention establishing a good personal relationship, they say. Tory leader Peter MacKay said Mr. Martin should not wait for Mr. Bush to call and congratulate him on winning the Liberal leadership, but should pick up the phone first and do so this week. And, says Alliance MP Deb Grey: "He needs to prove what he says about mending relations with the U.S. -- on BSE, get the borders open, deal with softwood lumber. We didn't want to get involved in Iraq -- so what are we going to do on that front?"

Yes, what indeed? What might Bush want in return to favoring us with a pat on the head? Well, he could grant us the privilege of joining the US in sinking into the Iraqi quagmire. The Americans certainly need help there. According to this morning’s Power and Interest News Report (PINR) dispatch,

"… if the White House is able to corral a greater number of countries into committing troops to Iraq, the president and his administration -- specifically the likes of Vice President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his deputy Paul Wolfowitz -- will appear vindicated on charges of unilateralism and anti-internationalism, which is one of the most widespread and accepted criticisms of this White House's foreign policy. It would be both an international and domestic political victory over their critics if the Bush administration were able to create a true coalition of military forces sharing constabulary duties in Iraq."

Question for my fellow Canadians: Do we really want to help these guys out even if it does mean getting a few more cows over the US border?

Ed Weick

 

 

 

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