Re: [Futurework] Iraq revisited

[Ed Weick]

Said on the spur of the moment, Harry.  I tend to get a little emotional about Bush and his administration.  They lied their way into the Iraq war, saying it was about WMDs and connections with Al Qada.  They are holding hundreds, perhaps thousands, of young men in Cuba and elsewhere without any recognition of due process.  They send people like Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen, off to Syria to be tortured and, according to an ex CIA operative, to Egypt to be disappeared.  Something I read recently suggested that only Edgar J. Hoover was able to match them in infringing on ordinary people's lives.  And major players in, and advisers to, the administration have ties with the weapons industry and with firms that will benefit from the reconstuction of Iraq.  I'm afraid it all leaves me a little angry.   Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ed Weick' ; 'Darryl and Natalia' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Iraq revisited Ed,   Is that what you think?   It seemed like a measured deliberate response.   So effective, indeed, that the military was completely surprised by its success. (I think that this led to their inability to handle the success.)   Harry   ******************************************** Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles Box 655  Tujunga  CA  91042 Tel: 818 352-4141  --  Fax: 818 353-2242 http://haledward.home.comcast.net ********************************************     From: Ed Weick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 4:00 AM To: Harry Pollard; 'Darryl and Natalia'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Iraq revisited So, of course, Bush had every reason to charge in like a wild cowboy.   Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Harry Pollard To: 'Ed Weick' ; 'Darryl and Natalia' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 4:09 AM Subject: RE: [Futurework] Iraq revisited Ed, I don't think Saddam's methods were distasteful, they were murderous. The bringing together of these disparate groups had already been accomplished before he came to power (by kicking out the previous leader). He sent his secret police to East Germany to train in Staasi methods. They came back knowing what to do. The tens of thousands killed, the tens of thousands tortured, the women who were decapitated by a sword in the street before the neighbors -- none of these could be called distasteful. Unless, of course, it is in good taste to maintain stability by keeping 25 million people living in a climate of fear. Harry    --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.541 / Virus Database: 335 - Release Date: 11/14/2003