On dim 15/09/13 01:02 , michel dominique <dominique.mic...@vtxnet.ch> wrote:

> On sam 14/09/13 19:56 , michel dominique  wrote:
> 
> > On sam. 14/09/13 16:41 , Thomas Funk wrote:
> > 
> > > Thomas Funk wrote:
> > > > Dan Espen wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hmm, now everyone's top-posting.
> > > > Sorry for that. I was too fast and have forgotten it.
> > > >> I feel myself weakening.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've been occupied, but I'll get to this.
> > > > It doesn't greatly matter. Most systems has more than one Xdg menu.
> > 
> > Until a certain extend. I think many experimented fvwm users will
> install
> > a minimum system, and will not get more than 1 or 2 xdg menus.
> > 
> > Also, many distributions don't have their own menu system like debian,
> > so the chances are big they will get only 1 xdg menu with a minimum
> > install.
> 
> It is even worst, on a fresh gentoo install, with only fvwm, fvwm-crystal,
> xorg-server, stalonetray, mc and rxvt-unicode, I get no xdg menu file at
> all.
> 
> It is also another issue. No xdg.menu file implementation I know are
> supporting well the additional freedesktop categories. As example, In the
> Multimedia categories, you get 3 main categories and no additional
> categories
> in most distributions, which is a shame.
> 
> On Debian, I experimented a little bit with xfce by modifying its menu
> file 
> in /etc/xdg/menus
> 
> With the following, I get the Multimedia menu with 3 sub-menus, Audio,
> Video and AudioVideo. Video and AudioVideo are not changed at that time,
> but in Audio, I get automatically sub-menus for all the supported
> additional categories, and the programs without additional categories
> are in the Audio main submenu. So for me, that's perfect. It is a
> maintenance free menu out of the box for most users.
> 
> Multimedia
> 
> Audio
> 
> Audio
> 
> HamRadio
> Midi
> Mixer
> Sequencer
> AudioVideoEditing
> Player
> Recorder
> 
> HamRadio
> 
> HamRadio
> 
> Midi
> 
> Midi
> 
> Mixer
> 
> Mixer
> 
> Sequencer
> 
> Sequencer
> 
> AudioVideoEditing
> 
> AudioVideoEditing
> 
> Player
> 
> Player
> 
> Recorder
> 
> Recorder
> 
> Video
> 
> Video
> 
> AudioVideo>
> 
> AudioVideo
> 
> For now, this is just a prove of concept. This have to be extended to all
> the other main categories. Eventually, files can be provided into 
> /usr/share/desktop-directories for automatic translation. I commented
> it because otherwise all the sub-menus are named Multimedia, so
> files must be provided if we want to support the Directory tag.
> 
> Can someone test it and report how it work with fvwm. If it work fine,
> it will be something to add to fvwm, because it will make its application
> menu to work out of the box with support for the additional categories
> and in any distributions. If it work as I expect, it will be worth to add
> a
> --desktop fvwm option to fvwm-menu-desktop.

I get it to work with fvwm. It work as well than in xfce.

> 
> > 
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > > I found another problem with unicode errors in menu names under
> XUbuntu.
> > 
> > > I will check this in the next time. So, forget the last patch. I will 
> > > send a new one with the unicode error fix included.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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