On 06 Nov 2003 19:22:35 -0500, Wendell Turner wrote:
> 
> > > Any suggestions as to what this phenomenon is, or how I can
> > > 'correct' it so that the applications start with the title bar
> > > visible?
> 
> > Which fvwm version?
> 
> (Darn.  I forgot to specify all of this on the original post)
> 
>   FVWM version 2.4.15
> and
>   fvwm-2.4.15-1
>   fvwm-themes-0.6.2-1
> 
> > Which applications and their window size hints (run "xwininfo -size")?
> 
> xwininfo: Window id: 0x1c00029 "Pollo - /home/wendell/tmp/local.xml"
>   Normal window size hints:
>       Program supplied location: 0, 0
>       Program supplied size: 788 by 570
>       Program supplied window gravity: NorthWestGravity
>   No zoom window size hints defined

Theoretically, "Style * NoPPosition" should help. But this is the default
for fvwm-themes, so it is unclear. fvwm 2.5.x has more style options
like FixedPPosition and similar, this may help too.

It is also possible that 2.5.x behaves better regarding Java programs, I
can't say for sure. Maybe others have this Pollo application.

> It seems to be just java applications, and the "Program supplied
> location: 0, 0" certainly looks bad.  Can I override this?
> 
> > Which fvwm configuration (better run fvwm with no configuration)?
> 
> Is this it?
>   exec fvwm-themes-start
> or is the configuration something else?

Define all additional style lines in file styles-extra as explained in
fvwm-themes FAQ.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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