On 13 Nov 2003 01:37:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:41:46 +0000, Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 
> 
> > On 11 Nov 2003 16:24:07 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>
> >> I would be happy if people took my patches.
> 
> > You are welcome to send patches that improve the deb package we
> > provide.  However if you speak about hooks and other ancient things,
> > I see them as a clear deterioration. This will not be applied. The
> > configuration in your patch are so ancient (from 5-7 years ago?)
> > that it makes no sence to start to fix it. It should be dropped. We
> > already provide 2 sets of configurations for a user without any
> > fvwm2rc. Maintaining more configurations that are also distribution
> > specific is meaningless.
> 
>       I am not wedded to the configuration examples. If that is your
>  sole objection, then it is easl=ily fixed. 
> 
> > We also don't add any distribution specific legacy things to our
> > rpms.  The binary packages from developers are clean and include
> > only the things installed on a regular "make install". With addition
> > of all mandatory stuff to pass the package requirements and minor
> > usability things.
> 
>       Are we still speaking of the examples? 

I am speaking about the patch of 1.2Mb that you apply.

It would be acceptable if you apply a patch of 500b, but at this point
you just package something else, not what we release.

>       I note that the packages provided do not integrate well into
>  Debian's menu system, nor do they integrate with the alternatives
>  system;

Try the latest cvs, I think this is all handled at the needed minimum.

>  and, off hand, I do not see a system wide default fvwmrc.

fvwm is best to be run without any system wide fvwmrc, especially the one
written 5-7 years ago. The users then gets a menu and a choice to setup
2 configurations we maintain. There is also the third choice, fvwm-themes.

>  Are these
>  the legacy things you refer to? If so, I am afraid that the packages
>  provided by Debian must remain diverged; some of these are required by
>  the need to present an consistent integration of window managers into
>  Debian.

To do it propertly, I would package fvwm-legacy that could be installed
by the users who need it on top of the clean deb (most of the users do
not need this additional package).

>       I am not the official maintainer of FVWM in Debian, but I'll
>  try and see if I can get him to cede the apckage to me, when I'll
>  have greater control over the default configuration.

I don't really worry about any specific distribution and their internal
politics, the only thing I worry is to get much less distribution specific
questions/problems on this list.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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