On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 11:40:44PM +0530, Kingsly John wrote:
> +++ Bernard Lang [2004-04-15 16:43:57]:
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 09:57:12AM +0200, stu wrote:
> > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:57:17 +0200
> > > Bernard Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > My point was not adressed to you personnally
> > It is just that 2.5 has been in the works quite a long time, and
> > there is no end in sight.
> 
> I've been using the 2.5 series for nearly 2 years now.. and have probably had
> a handful of crashes so far.
> 
> >   Since it is considered unstable, it is not packaged for many
> > distrib, including the one I use (Mandrake).  Though someone gave me
> > some brief instructions, it was not precise enough for me to follow.
> 
> Does Mandrake still ship fvwm ? 

no  ... I do not know why
 ... and I would like them to ... they might if 2.6 comes out


> > I just cannot afford the time to guess how I am supposed to compile
> > things, with the right environment.  I do other things to contribute
> > to free software, and any time I spend on this is essentially wasted
> > (since it is of use only to myself).
> 
> Whats wrong with these binary rpms here ?
> 
> http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=fvwm

All those intended for Mandrake seem to be version 1.24

I have not tried these ...  aren't they old versions

> Have you even bothered to try 
> 
> rpmbuild -ta fvwm-2.5.10.tar.gz

no because no one suggested it to me, and I have never done it.

Now, will that build a package that runs with Mandrake, if done in my
Mandrake environment ?
  I will try to see a real manual ... man does not say much ...

The reason for my question is that I did download
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/fvwm-themes/fvwm-2.5.8-2.i386.rpm
intended for Red-Hat, that I found on the FVWM site at <URL:
http://www.fvwm.org/>.

  but it did not work (not that I expected very much)

> Or alternately you can hire the services of a consultant to package and
> install fvwm on your machine!

the whole point is that one should not need that.  So there may be
a pointer to some simple doc missing somewhere.

> >  I understand that real men use only Debian ... well I am not one of them.
> 
> And what does have to do with anything ?

good question, and sorry about this display (no pun intended).  Well I
found packages for Debian and Red-Hat but that is all.
  I guess it was just an uncalled for reaction, because too many
people, though not here, consider that one should be a hacker to
deserve free software.  And it does make my life difficult, not so
much for myself, but when I try to promote free software.

  Fvwm happens to be my preferred WM, and has been for many years.
But I do not have much time to spend on configuring my linux box.

Thanks for replying

Bernard

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