The best way to test this would obviously be to turn off redirects on
the Nokias.  I have seen the opposite scenario, where people wanted to
turn ON redirects, and required a recompiled version of a Checkpoint
executable (fw.exe I believe).  I'm not sure if they would do the
reverse for the Nokia platform, but it's certainly worth contacting
them.

Mike Feetham


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Greetings,

Have a pair of Nokia 650's w/VRRP running on the outside of our site
purely to terminate VPN tunnels with partner companies.  They are
configured "on a stick", i.e. the encrypted traffic enters the public
interface, gets decrypted, and leaves the public interface again, headed
towards the PIX that actually protects the application segment.

I noticed this morning that there is a flood of ICMP redirects streaming
out of both Nokias.  It appears that for every packet coming out of our
application segment destined for something on the other side of a tunnel
a redirect is sent from the Nokia to the app server, asking it to use
the border router instead.  Now the border router is the default gateway
for the Nokias and also for the PIX.  It makes some sense that the Nokia
would complain about being "in the middle", and if the traffic was not
meant for a tunnel it would be a needless hop.  I would assume that if I
could make some static route entries for the destinations on the other
side of the tunnels I could squelch this redirect flood, but because it
is "on a stick" I don't have another interface to direct the traffic to!

Despite all of this the traffic DOES enter the tunnel as intended, and
the application is operating normally (other than complaints about it
being slow, which is what began the investigation this morning that
uncovered the redirects).

First I am wondering if this is a normal artifact of configuring this to
run "on a stick", and second I am wondering if it is possible that these
redirects are slowing down the traffic in any way.  Finally I would love
to hear from someone that has solved this :)

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jeff LaCoursiere
Infrastructure Specialist
T-Mobile International UK

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