ICMP type 3 (Destination Unreachable) code 4 (Fragmentation Needed and
Don't Fragment was Set)

see link for further info:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/icmp-parameters

If a networking device receives a packet that is larger than the
devices MTU and the packet has the don't fragment (DF) bit set to "on",
then the networking device should respond with an ICMP type 3 code 4
telling the sender to decrease the packet size.  This is PathMTU

Most of the time a router or firewall would generate this traffic.
Most of the time if this doesnt work its because a router is blocking it
(with ACL or interface configured with no ip unreachables) or a firewall
is blocking it (because firewall admin's are ignorant of PMTU)

If you are doing NAT then the packet can't always make it back to the
"original" sender to ask it to drop the packet size.  If you are using
VPN's then the effective mtu (made that up) is smaller than the sender
believes.

Mitchell

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/04 12:09PM >>>
What ICMP codes?  Who sends them?  The client, the enforcement module,
the
host behind the enforcement module?  Thanks for the help.

-Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: "Rodriguez Quintero, Juan Diego, SYNAPSIS Per�"
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Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [FW-1] MTU Path Discovery - Not working on NG-AI

Have you checked your router...? you may be blocking some icmp codes
there.



-----Mensaje original-----
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enviado el: Viernes, 30 de Enero de 2004 11:53 a.m.
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: [FW-1] MTU Path Discovery - Not working on NG-AI


We use R54 Build 132 clients, against a R54 gateway (no HFA's)/ IPSO
3.7
Build 23.  I have read several threads where people say MTU should not
be an
issue with SecuRemote on NG-AI, yet we continually have users that have
to
run MTUAdjust, in order to connect to certain apps through the VPN.
Could
we be blocking something, so MTU Path Discovery cannot work properly?
Just
trying to kill one more mystery.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.



-Aaron




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