We have had a similar issue.

We have a site to site VPN setup with an external site.

Servers needing access are defined on the if via rule.

Encryption domain on our side includes subnets at my site.

The difference lies, in that the web server we try to get to is on the
external site's network.

We could not get to their website.  I believe the packet was dropped.
Reason was that the website was included in the encryption domain of the
external site and CheckPoint would include it in the VPN rule and this site
did not have access via the rule and would get dropped.

We found out that we had defined the encryption domain for the external site
incorrectly.  Once we corrected this, they were able to access the website.

So I believe that if your webservers are included in your encryption domain
you will see the same issue.  It is possible that you could create a network
object with your defined subnets for the encryption domain, and then use a
negate group to negate the web server from the encryption domain, and apply
this to the topology.  But of course this has other issues...where you need
the web server as part of the encryption domain.

Another thing you could try is include this webserver as part of the site to
site VPN with the other site, then instead of them coming cleartext to the
site, they would come through the VPN.

Derek O'Flynn
Enterprise Information Security
LSU Health Sciences Center
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (504)568-6130

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Pesek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FW-1] Remote Access encryption domain versus site-to-site
encryption domain

We have our entire internal network defined as being in the encryption
domain for remote access use.

We also have a frame connection to a partner that terminates on a server in
the encryption domain. We want to replace it with a site-to-site Simplified
VPN. They're running a WatchGuard 7.0 Firebox III system.

We got the VPN up and running OK but we have one oddity. We also have a web
server on our internal network (in the encryption domain) that is accessible
from certain IP addresses on the Internet. It is also used by this partner.

When the partner tries to access the web server from the Internet, the
connection is dropped as a cleartext packet in an encrypted connection. If I
exclude HTTP from the Simplified Community, it works OK.

It appears that the Remote Access and Site-to-Site encryption domains cannot
be separated at all even though the rule that has the "if via" objects in
Source and Destination only specifiy a particular IP address.

I was thinking that if the "if via" rule did not specify the IP address of
the web server, and it doesn't, then traffic to the web server would not
have to go down the tunnel as well. The VPN server and the web server are
only one digit different in IP addresses, if that matters.

Can anyone shed some light on whether this behavior is correct? That if
traffic originates from a Simplified VPN satellite gateway, then all traffic
to any IP contained in the encryption domain must be encrypted even if the
rule base does not specify this? R55, by the way.

Thanks,

Ray

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