Sascha,

        From the description of the issue, it sounds like the reseller is
incorrect. If you have the VEE license you would need an additional FW
module license to create a the VRRP Cluster. From the Checkpoint Licensing
Summary I did not find any mention to a CPVP-VCT license, but it states for
the CPVP-VEE that you would need an additional FW module to create a
cluster.

The link for the guide is
https://usercenter.checkpoint.com/ucdocs/SummaryLicensing.htm

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Sascha Picchiantano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FW-1] CP licensing and Nokia VRRP - Problem. Pls. help.


Hi there,

about 2 years ago one of my customers bought a so called Checkpoint
Enterprise Center which was supposed to have management for unlimited
gateways and IP addresses. It is CPVP-VEE-U-NG (which is the unlimited
management including one unlimited VPN-1 gateway). Today we tried to buy a
new unlimited VPN-1 gateway module to install on a second Nokia Box, so that
we can do Nokia VRRP high availability. Now the sales person is telling us
in order to do this, we would have to upgrade our existing (_unlimited_!)
enterprise center to a new version called CPVP-VCT-U-NG. Needless to say
this upgrade is expensive. Without the update we would not be able to buy
and even install new Gateway modules.

So the once unlimited Enterprise Center today becomes a limited one.

Something must be very wrong here but they insist of being right.

They also say if we would buy a gateway module today and operate that in an
HA environment together with the "old" gateway, we would run into problems,
thus the need for an upgrade of the existing gateway.

Can anyone with licensing experience and technical background in Nokia VRRP
shed some light on this for me please? I really don't understand why we
would have to upgrade the existing gateway although the existing one was
part of an unlimited bundle and is unlimited itself. Looks to me like they
want to make some additional money...

To make a long story short:
We have CPVP-VEE-U-NG and want to buy a second gateway module to gain HA. Is
this possible without expensivly upgrading the CPVP-VEE-U-NG?

Thanks so much for your help. Oh and if anyone knows of a page that explains
all those CP abbreviations like CPVP-VEE-U-NG I'd appreciate that too :)

Regards,
Sascha

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