FYI I recently discovered Check Point released HFA-09 on August 17th,
they then withdrew it on August 18th because it caused so many problems
and it was re-released on September 2nd. The new HFA-09 includes fixes
for both the SecureClient issue present in HFA-08 and the site to site
VPN issues experienced by some people in the first release of HFA-09.
Given that it took two weeks of further development before the
re-release it is likely to have gone through a pretty strict Q & A
process. One of our customers moved to HFA-09 last week with no problems
(they have both site to site and client to site VPNs) and I applied it
on an install yesterday, again without any issues.

Cheers

Stu


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Sent: 17 September 2004 20:27
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Maybe Spam] Re: [FW-1] FLAPPING CROSSOVER

The problem with HFA08, if you've watched the mailing list, is that it
broke:
Secure Client/Secure Remote
VPN Tunnels

So, in my opinion, that is not a fix. I have heard HFA09 is a little
better, then again, I have also heard the VPN tunnels were still broken.
This is still not acceptable for us, so we have yet to upgrade.

Bugs I have seen:
When installing policy, failover may occur. You can fix this by setting:
fw
ctl set int fwha_freeze_state_machine_timeout 30
Disable it by giving the value of 0.

Use cpstop and cpstart instead of the cprestart commands. Sometimes
cprestart leaves clusters in an unstable state.

Legacy Unicast HA mode went away after FP2. It has returned in R55.

Try to keep your synch interface on a crossover or hub. Hub is
preferred,
unless you want to mess with the multicast/broadcast stuff you have seen
already sent to the mailing list. If you have three or more, you might
get
into a situation where you want to use a switch. Then you need to make
sure
you have a dedicated VLAN and that the switch will do multicasts, or set
CCP to be broadcast.

Synch over a WAN is a bad idea, avoid it if you can. Something like
this:
synch network must guarantee no more than 100ms latency, and no more
than
5% packet loss. (WAN is very hard to control, I'd recommend avoiding
doing
synch that way). Also, routers will drop the CCP packets of ClusterXL.
You
MAY be able to get around this with a helper-address on Cisco routers,
or
something similar on other routers. Not sure, I have not tried.

User-Auth sessions are lost if a cluster member goes down. This is the
functionality of the firewalls, not really a bug. Just a FYI. User-Auth
sessions go to your security-server so they cannot be synched.


There! I have dumped what I can remember! The ClusterXL docs are a great
place, this is where I got most of this info. SK is also a great place
to
look. The cphaprob script is very cool.

Hope this helped at least someone! The synch stuff is really useful for
any
type of HA, not just ClusterXL.

Regards,
Matt Goddard
Security Information Team
Schneider National
920-592-4787
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I before had this problem. It's resolved with HFA08 installed in
Enforcement
Modules.

Claudia Cordova
Soporte Tecnico
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Torkel
Mathisen
Enviado el: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:07 AM
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Asunto: Re: [FW-1] FLAPPING CROSSOVER

Hi Matt

Could you perhaps share some of those bugs with this list?

We have several issues with Cluster-XL. We seem to have
fixed some of them, but I'm not sure about all.

We also have a problem where we only can ping hosts when we
actually snoop/tcpdump on the interface. As soon as we stop
dump'ing we can't ping the host anymore. (We had to swich
to secondary node to get it to work ok)

I would like to know you experiences with ClusterXL and the
problems you know.

Thanks,
Torkel

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> Are you running ClusterXL, or other? What OS? There are quite
> a few bugs I
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> Perhaps I may be able to help you. Let the mailing list know. :-)
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> Regards,
> Matt Goddard
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> I have swapped out the cable and switched to a new nic with
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> I turned off auto-negotiated and set it to 100baseTX-FD
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