[VRRP HA on IPSO 3.7.1 does not fail over on cpstop]

>>
Now I think with Nokia VRRP (IPSO 3.7) and CP HA, this is the way it is
supposed to function.
>>

Indeed.

>>
However I would like the functionality of having stateful failover in the event 
the fw service or policy uninstall is
done on the master as well.
>>

Not so sure about the policy uninstall, but you can get the "monitor firewall 
services running" functionality with IPSO 3.8(.1) and R55p. Note you need to 
move to R55p on the enforcement point, though; R55 is not supported on IPSO 
3.8(.1).

>>
What does Nokia clustering do for me?  This will give me load balancing
and move me to active/active as opposed to active/passive.  Maybe this
is what I need to do.
>>

I highly recommend against that. IP Clustering adds a ton of complexity, and 
unless you have a very good reason to use it, don't. Also, IP Clustering really 
gets useful with IPSO 3.8 and up - in 3.7.1 there's just too many "rough edges" 
to it still.

In a nutshell, a good guideline is: "If you have so many VPN connections that 
your box can't handle them even though you use a hardware crypto accelerator; 
_and_ your boxes are beefy enough to benefit from load-balancing without the 
overhead eating the performance gain right back up again (*), then use IP 
Clustering".

(*) Beefy enough used to be defined as IP530 and up. Not sure about IP380 - I'd 
wager they have enough "oomph" to benefit from LB in "heavy VPN traffic" 
situations too, but I haven't seen hard data either way.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne
Ho
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FW-1] High Availability and Nokia IPSO Clustering

You don't need ClusterXL, VRRP is fine.
--- "Stachowicz,Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> If I didn't want to do load sharing,  only automatic failover,  would
> I still need ClusterXL?  I currently have VPN-1 Pro gateway licenses
> on my Nokias,  I assume that for auto failover capabilities I would
> need to replace those licenses with the "Additional VPN-1 Pro Gateways

> for Load Sharing and High Availability" licenses?  Or are these
> licenses an add-on to the VPN-1 Pro license I have now?
>
> I've tried turning on HA with my current licenses and it does
> activate, however if I attempt to check status,  it returns an error
> saying the HA
> module is not installed.   This is why I think I
> need the license for
> HA.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -ms
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Will
> Zegeer
> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] High Availability and Nokia IPSO Clustering
>
> CP Cluster XL licenses - either HA or Loadsharing.
> When NG first came
> out (and in the 4.1/4.0 days), it was very cumbersome and didn't work
> well. But now, Post R54 releases work very well and it's very easy to
> set up. I suggest Secureplatform with cluster xl and read the cluster
> xl pdf.
>
> -Will
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Stachowicz,Mark
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         Sent: Mon 12/6/2004 11:25 PM
>         To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         Cc:
>         Subject: [FW-1] High Availability and Nokia IPSO Clustering
>
>
>
>         I have two Nokia 710 gateways running IPSO
> 3.7 and Checkpoint
> NG-AI R54
>         (FW-1/VPN-1 Pro).   I also have a Solaris
> 2.8 management station
> that
>         manages both firewalls.
>
>         I only have Nokia VRRP running now to
> failover the firewalls in
> the
>         event of a failure,  however this will only
> work in the event of
> a
>         hardware failure.  This does not help if the
> master firewall
> software
>         stops working or the policy fails.
>
>         What are my options for high availability
> with my Checkpoint
> firewalls
>         to ensure that I always have a failover?
>
>         Can you also provide licenses that I would
> need to purchase?
>
>         Thanks very much in advance..
>
>         -mark stachowicz
>
>
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