Exactly, the connection is timing out on the firewall before it times
out at the endpoints and several sources I have found explain this
common issue occurs from Microsoft's loose adherence to RFC793.  However
many explanations exist, I have yet to find an acceptable solution!

The option doesn't exist for me to allow out of state TCP from specific
hosts, only as a global setting.  I've been told the problem needs to be
approached differently but how?

Thanks!
fred

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
Senior
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] drop out of state tcp?

If they really are violating TCP standards, i.e. sending unsolicited
ACKs, then they won't be able to communicate anyway, as the other side
won't have an allocated socket.

A more likely explanation might be that the connection is timing out on
the firewall before it times out at the endpoints.  Then they start
talking again, but the firewall's forgotten about the conversation.

Regards
Mark  

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Fredrik M
Sent: 8 February, 2006 14:50
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Subject: [FW-1] drop out of state tcp?

Checkpoint FW-1 NG R55

Is there a "more restrictive" alternative to un-checking "drop out of
state TCP" in the Global Properties?

Specifically dealing with a handful of Microsoft boxes on either side
that seem to violate TCP standards.

Can an exception be made per rule?

More specifics:

Dropped... TCP packet out of state; First packet isn't SYN;
tcp_flags:ACK

Thanks!

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