I agree with Mark, remember CheckPoint is not a low-budget solution. And on any case it is not CheckPoint guys problem if you choose to use your SecureClient to get connected and centrally manage the firewall policies only once a month.
If you want VPN connectivity and personal firewall, but not paying the cost of SecureClient, use SecuRemote (which has no extra charge) for the first and ZoneAlarm free firewall for the second... at least I can assure you Zone Alarm's Solution is a lot more secure than Windows firewall. Regards On 8/3/06, Mark Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I´m talking about the SecureClient, without Integritiy. The difference to windows firewall is, that you can manage the SC policy centrally. As far as i know, this is not possible with windows firewall. I don´t know the exact pricelist, but if you calculate down to one licence you pay about 25 - 35 $ each. I think it´s not easy to find an another client firewall which is centrally managed to this price. But if you want a low-budget firewall i think with checkpoint you picked the wrong one ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "no-need to-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [FW-1] Policy server license counting = money making programme ... > Eitheir I am missing something....or just hand over the checkbook to the > vendor... > > We are talking here about plain vanilla SecureClient...not the Integrity > SecureClient with all the bells and whistles.... > > If the SecureClient is not active...PC is shutdown....then there is no > connection to the firewall to create a tunnel and it has an outdated > policy. > > Why this client should be counted if it is not active at the moment and > if was used once in 30 day???? > > What benefit I am gaining from having the SecureClient loaded, pay a > license, when it not in use? > > To me is more economical to have a Windows firewall. > > If we talk about the Integrity SecureClient then I agree with the vendor > and their License scheme....because of all the extras... > > The plain vanilla SecureClient is nothing more then a SecureRemote on > steroid...with a simple firewall. This is just the 1 cent... > > > > > Mark Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The special thing that has changed since R54 and older is that now the > lincenses are counted monthly. If you have a 100 user license, it means > that > every month 100 users are allowed to connect to the policy server. If the > 91st user connects, you got a message in your Smartview Tracker, that > "less > than 10 % license free". If the 101st user connects, you got the message > "Your Policy Server license is limited to 100 users. Contact your > reseller." > And that is all. The users above 100 get not blocked or something. > > But it is not legal to have more users connecting than licensed! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Hoz" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:49 AM > Subject: Re: [FW-1] Policy server license counting = money making > programme > ... > > >> On 8/1/06, Mark Elsen wrote: >>> >... >>> > >>> > AFAIK, the way the Policy Server counts the licenses is according to >>> > the >>> > number or users you have in the group you use for SC policies... >>> > >>> >... >>> >>> - What happens then, if you only have one generic user which points >>> to a Radius server for VPN authentication ? >>> >> >> I guess that counts as 1 initially as technically would be an issue to >> enforce that, and my >> guesS would be that in that case it counts the concurrent users. And the >> way to >> calculate how many licenses are used would be against the major number >> present >> (concurrent logged users versus total users defined in the group). But >> that's only >> *my guess* >> >> In the other side, defining *generic as the user just to avoid paying >> more licenses >> is like putting a proxy or a NAT device just to prevent the firewall >> to count the IPs >> being protected: technically the license can't be enforced this way, >> but that's NOT legal, >> and you would be violating the EULA (End User License Agreeement)... >> >> - Martín. >> >> ================================================= >> To set vacation, Out-Of-Office, or away messages, >> send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> in the BODY of the email add: >> set fw-1-mailinglist nomail >> ================================================= >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, >> please see the instructions at >> http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html >> ================================================= >> If you have any questions on how to change your >> subscription options, email >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ================================================= > > ================================================= > To set vacation, Out-Of-Office, or away messages, > send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > in the BODY of the email add: > set fw-1-mailinglist nomail > ================================================= > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > please see the instructions at > http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html > ================================================= > If you have any questions on how to change your > subscription options, email > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ================================================= > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Next-gen email? 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