"Hi Christian,

Yes both LAN_1 and LAN_2, as well as the firewall on my end have valid
public IP addresses.

LAN_X however is RFC1918 with 10.0.0.0/24 IP addresses with NAT on the
firewall of LAN_X for this network."
   
  The problem here is that LAN_X is "hide" NAT to the firewall external 
interface for
  going out to the Internet.  
   
  You must be using VPN in simplified mode right?  The problem with simplified 
mode
  the firewall itself (i.e. the External IP address" is also part of the 
Encryption domain.
  Therefore, when traffics from LAX_X hit LAN_2, even the firewall on the other 
end send
  it out in clear text traffic, your firewall will see at "encrypted" traffic 
because LAN_X is
  "hide" NAT to the firewall External IP address of the remote firewall.  This 
is a stupid
  VPN design from checkpoint if you ask me.  You will see this issue a lot if 
you
  set VPN between Cisco devices and Checkpoint firewall.
   
  Solution:
   
  1) "hide" NAT LAN_X to a public IP address other than the firewall public IP 
address
   
  2) switch from "simplified" mode VPN to traditional mode VPN.  That, by 
default,
  will take the firewall itself from the encryption domain and LAN_X will be 
able to 
  communicate with LAN_2 without issues.
   
  Good luck to you.
   
  cisco4ng
   
  

Christian ALT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I guess that LAN_2 is not an official IP network or is it?

Because this configuration as you describe it is possible. LAN_2 should be
accessed by a different IP address than the firewall itself.

If you are more specific with addresses, I should be able to help you
further.

Bye for now,

Christian ALT

Telecom and Logistics Associates
Network Security Company

http://www.tla.ch

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark
Pace Balzan
Sent: mercredi, 16. aout 2006 14:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FW-1] VPN domain and non-encrypted traffic


Hi all,


I have a module and mgmt on the same machine running splat NG-AI R55.
The vpn domain for this gateway is defined as LAN_1 and LAN_2, which are
separate networks behind this firewall.

A VPN exists between this firewall and another firewall, call it FW_X
protecting LAN_X (I don't have access to the firewall, since it belongs
to someone else). People in LAN_X can access parts of LAN_1 on my
network via the encrypted VPN as expected - I have a rule on my firewall
like this:

SRC: LAN_X
DST: LAN_1
SVC: any
VIA: COMMUNITY_X
Action: Accept


The Problem:

On LAN_2 there are some public services, which I would like LAN_X and
all the rest of the world to access unencrypted. For this I have a rule
like this (which is after the rule above in my policy):

SRC: ANY
DST: LAN_2
SVC: smtp, http, ftp
VIA: ANY
Action: Accept

All the world can access services on LAN_2, but LAN_X cannot, and the
firewall is complaining about:
'encryption failure: Received a cleartext packet within an encrypted
connection'


What is the expected behaviour of FW1 - Is it possible to have traffic
from LAN_X to LAN_2 to go through un-encrypted ?

I would have expected this to be possible but on my setup it is not
working, so I would like to know if I should be doing further
troubleshooting of my config, or else if this is a limitation that
cannot be overcome, then I should not need any further troubleshooting.

Removing LAN_2 from my VPN domain allows the traffic to flow
unencrypted, but this is not a good solution since it breaks other
things for me.



Thanks to all


Mark

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