You said:
   
  "At best, I would say that the documentation for .def files are lacking as to
whether or not they will be overwritten. It turns out that keeping that
information up to date would be quite the undertaking. Read the release
notes for an HFA and follow the best practices and you'll be fine. For
example in the R55 HFA 10 release notes there were changes for the PPTP
stuff. It required quite a few .def mods etc. In the future if you see
something that's a major change then you'll need to review previous changes
to .def mods and see if it affects your installation."
   
  Now that is complete BS.  With all the $$$ that everyone is paying for 
checkpoint
  software & support, the least Checkpoint could do is to get its act together. 
 Isn't that
  too much to ask?
   
  cisco4ng
  

chkp tech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Greetings,

The quoted text really is great information so pay attention to it.

Quote>

Hope that clears things up a bit. Best practice is:
- Document any and all manual changes to CheckPoint files, such as .def
files, .h files, .C files.
- When applying a new HFA to a management station or standalone firewall,
copy in the changed files, and redo your documented changes after. Keep in
mind that .def files are interdependent - if you copy in one changed file,
you may have to copy in others. The easy way to handle that is to say "all
changed _HFA files get copied over".
- On modules, .def changes obviously don't concern you. cp.macro changes
won't either unless you change your licensing model. Use common sense - if
you see a changed file that may be beneficial to a module, copy it over;
otherwise don't. Typically and "99.9% of the time", there's no need to touch
_HFA files on a module.

/quote>

Currently, the way that def files are handled are that Check Point says that
def files will be overwritten so that if a file gets overwritten due to a
new format or whatever, no one can complain that a file was overwritten.

At best, I would say that the documentation for .def files are lacking as to
whether or not they will be overwritten. It turns out that keeping that
information up to date would be quite the undertaking. Read the release
notes for an HFA and follow the best practices and you'll be fine. For
example in the R55 HFA 10 release notes there were changes for the PPTP
stuff. It required quite a few .def mods etc. In the future if you see
something that's a major change then you'll need to review previous changes
to .def mods and see if it affects your installation.

Jason

On 8/25/06, cisco4ng wrote:
>
> According to Checkpoint, when upgrading from let say HFA_17 to HFA_18 in
> NG
> AI R55: "ALL changes made to the INSPECT files (aka, *.def files) will be
> overwritten"
>
> Well, that is NOT entirely true. I ran a few tests on my provider-1
> systems
> and I made a few changes in the user.def file and also some changes in the
> base.def
> file. After upgrading from HFA_17 to HFA_18, changes in the base.def file
> was
> overwritten by the new HFA; however changes made to the user.def file
> remains the
> the same. I've tested this several times with the same result.
>
> Wondering if anyone in this group can confirm? If this is true, it is
> telling me that
> Checkpoint just sucks. How can they pull some stupid stunt like that?
>
> cisco4ng
>

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