Jason,
  I don't think bashing products is very productive.  Every products has its 
  advantages and disadvantages; that's why all of us have high-paying jobs.
  Otherwise, why would someone need to pay top dollar for people like us?
  I think this forum is a great place to discuss the pros and cons of security
  products other CP.  I've learned a lot of everyone in this forum.
   
  Based on the information I've seen, I think FWSM is probably is right choice,
  unless the policy is not static.  I've seen many times when someone just
  put on a blinder and go with FWSM for performance but they have a very
  complicate security policy.  Worse, the policy is not very static.  Doing so 
  with FWSM is asking for trouble later down the road.
   
  just my 2c.
   
  cisco4ng

chkp tech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Normally, I try to stay away from bashing products other than Check Point on
this list. Many times I have seen concerns (many times correct) about Check
Point's support. I personally have installed Check Point, Crossbeam, Nokia,
Nortel NSF, Juniper, etc. I've had to call Nortel support on a couple
issues, and the support was less than helpful.

If you have further questions, we should probably take this off list, and
then I'll create a small distribution list. We can then discuss the finer
points of how to get your objective accomplished.

Jason


On 9/19/06, Bhavin Gandhi wrote:
>
> Nortel NSF with about 6 directors can reach 100K connections per second.
> Check their product brief at www.nortel.com for their claim on cps.
>
> Cheers.....
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary
> Scott
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:09 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] Looking for High end through put suggestion
>
>
> The high end Nokia IP 2250 can handle 87,000 connections per second. I
> have not been able to get a connection per second from crossbeam or any
> other Checkpoint appliance vendor (throughput and total number of concurrent
> connections doe's not equal connections per second). If anyone comes across
> these numbers I would love to see them. Thanks, GS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1 [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cisco4ng
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] Looking for High end through put suggestion
>
> 120k cps will require something like Cisco FWSM or Juniper Firewalls.
> FWSM is a pain in the ass to manage but it depends on your requirements.
> If the security policy is relatively "static", FWSM is the way to go. If
> your
> security policy is not "static", then go with Juniper Firewalls because
> the
> rulebase is much easier to manage than Checkpoint. Juniper also has
> NetScreen Security Manager (NSM), that will make your life a little bit
> easier. I've used the Juniper AS5200 and very impressed with it.
>
> For that amount of connections and throughput, I do not think CP will be
> your solution.
>
> chkp tech wrote: Sergio is correct in that 120k
> connections per second is quite a bit. If
> you are 'forced' to deal with that much bandwidth, then I'd recommend the
> Crossbeam X80. If there's a way to split the traffic, then you might be
> able to get away with an X40 or high end machine (Sun, Dell, etc)
>
> Yes the Crossbeam hardware is expensive, but they're the only ones that
> offer high end throughput consistently.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On 9/17/06, Sergio Alvarez wrote:
> >
> > Check the hardware compatibility list in the Check Point web site,
> > althought
> > 120K connections (per second I guess you meant) is a lot, so even the
> new
> > Nokia IP560 or the Sun Fire X42, might be short for you.
> > Maybe you can find a solution over something more of a carrier class,
> > check
> > also the Crossbeam site, they have very robust equipment.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/17/06, Tom Louis wrote:
> > >
> > > We are growing out of Nokia ability to handle the through put, I was
> > > wondering if there was any sites that show some abilities to handle
> > > atleast
> > > 120,000 connections along with 10 Gig cards.
> > >
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