VPN's would not break right away.  The gateways are in the habit of
pre-loading the CRL every 2 hours, so they should have a recent copy of
it whenever they need it; the problem is that the expiry lifetime of the
CRL is 24 hours at best, which is why that is the maximum time you have
to establish new SIC and install a new policy.

There is no way to avoid using certificated-based authentication for
internally-managed gateways, I believe.  It is not an available option
to use pre-shared secrets, except with externally-managed peers.


Peter Addy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, now to add a further spin! What if the manager changed and sic
> was established with another manager, would the vpns break instantly
> or not until a new policy was pushed from the new manager? Basically I
> assume there is no real way to keep a vpn intact and hardly any down
> time if a ne manager was deployed changing the vpn from cert to pre
> shared key, cheers
> 
> 
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 01:34 BST David DeSimone wrote:
> 
> >Since we just recently had this happen to us on our network, I can
> >confirm that this is exactly what happens.
> >
> >Certificate-based VPN's will fail within 24 hours due to the gateways'
> >inability to load the CRL.
> >
> >Pre-shared secret VPN's will continue to operate, presumably
> >indefinitely.
> >
> >
> >Independent IT Consultant <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> It greatly depends on the *type* of VPN.  If using certificates (such
> >> as with Edges or other gateways that are centrally managed), then
> >> the limiting factor is the CRL expiration on the ICA, which is, by
> >> default, 24 hours.  In this case, tunnels that can't validate their
> >> certificates will fail after that CRL timeout period.  Remember,
> >> it's 24 hours after the last CRL refresh, not necessarily 24 hours
> >> after the SMC went down.  With VPNs to external gateways using shared
> >> secret, they may work indefinitely, but I wouldn't guarantee it.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Peter Addy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Curious, Does anyone know how long would vpn's continue to work if a
> >> > smartcenter was down and not available for ? And if they do stop why
> >> > is this so, or do they simply continue to run but changes not can be
> >> > made until the manager was restored? Thanks

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   liked it I'd eat it, and I just hate it." -- Clarence Darrow


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