Greetings!

Doug Weathers schrieb:

> I used to work for an organization that ran FW-1 on a Solaris box.  It worked well, 
>but the Solaris platform was quite expensive, and the OS needed to be hardened, a 
>procedure that took up a day or so.
> Then we installed FW-1 on it, which took another day.
> Then we configured it that night, which took us somewhat past midnight.

I would like to object. Usually the base OS installation takes about one hour - most 
of it does the box on his own copying files from CD to harddisc. Installing the 
current Sun patch cluster takes a few hours - the box is all copying and installing 
without need for manual intervention. Hardening the Solaris installation, installing 
the firewall software and setting up a reasonable ruleset (~30 rules) takes another
hour.

In short: 1-2 hours work plus 5 hours waiting.

With some planning you can interleave work and wait - my personal record are four 
working systems from scratch within one standard work day  (8h).



> Then there's the physical aspect of a general-purpose computer versus a rack-mount 
>appliance.  We had to find a place in the computer room for the Sun CPU, that huge 
>monitor, that goofy keyboard, and that stupid clumsy mouse.  Then we had to run wires 
>to it from the datacomm closet.  If we could have just stuck an appliance in the rack 
>in the closet it would have saved us a lot of time.

Then choose a rack-model  like  a Sun E220R or a Sun Netra T1 AC200 - or simply an 
Ultra5 "pizzabox".  For operation you do not need monitor nor keyboard  (just don't 
unplug the keyboard while running as that will cause the Sun to initiate a shutdown). 
SSH and the FW1 console just work fine for a remote admin workstation. Even in extreme 
cases you do not need keyboard and monitor - I occasionally use my tiny Psion
organizer as system console over the serial cable (port A) where I have access to 
shell and even BootPROM. What more do you need?


> Now that the firewall is as vital as routing, it makes sense that your firewall 
>should also be moved to a purpose-built rack-mounted device, and for the same reasons.

> Anyway, to sum up:  in my opinion, "Firewall on a general purpose OS like Unix or NT 
>- bad.  Single purpose firewall appliance - good."

Objection (at least for Unix).

A firewall is more than just packet filtering and routing. You need "immediate" 
alerting and log access - which means need for extensive automated filtering.  It 
comes in extremely handy if you can automagically filter logs and alerts, build 
reports and archives with scheduled scripts.

Plus it helps a  LOT  if you can use the firewall as central network sniffer  (e.g. 
Sun's builtin SNOOP command) - especially in more complex NATing and routing 
environments.

And what about backup? Given spare parts I only need a few (5-15) minutes to restore 
the firewall (including rules and all) onto a blank system 
(http://www.wyae.de/software/SunBackup.tar).

Bye
    Volker


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