Sounds like CP/SR is playing with the GINA.. Windows uses GINA.dll to log in, Novell 
client uses NWGINA.. if you're only getting the windows login, NWGINA is not being run 
for some reason. I think it's under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/microsoft.windowsNT/CurrentVersion/Winlogon

There's a GinaDLL key which IIRC is the correct one. The one on the machine I'm on at 
the moment is ng becuase PCA changes this value too.. (Gina is popular!) Anyhow, not 
sure of the best way to stop these apps from fighting over how your machine logs in.


>>> Bill Osterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/25/02 05:17PM >>>
Do not be so sure CP is the culprit here.  I have seen problems before with the Novell 
client and other vendors VPN clients including Cisco and Enterasys, particularly when 
doing IPSec.  It seems that the Novell client messes with the IP stack somehow (I was 
never able to get a straight answer) and in some versions of windows this can cause 
negotiation failures with the VPN servers.  Try checking the Novell web page and see 
if they have any hints for you.  Unfortunately, they did not for me....

In our scenario, the order of installation determined the upgrade path.  If the VPN 
client was installed first and then the Novell client, a second installation (after 
the Novell client) of the VPN client worked.  If the Novell client was installed 
first, we did not have reliable installations without re-installing the OS.  For some, 
with a clean OS install we did not see the problem at all.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 2:02 PM
  Subject: [FW-1] Login process priority after installing SR client (Novell)



  Can anyone tell me why when I install the SecuRemote client on my machine my Novell 
Client login get hosed.
  The system only prompts using the Windows window. The only way I can get it back it 
to reinstall Novell.
  It all seems to work OK afterwards but it's going to be a real problem if I have to 
upgrade a couple of hundred laptops.
  Paul
  PS: moan.. moan... Why can't Check Point release a working version of SR client I am 
also getting fed up with the 'Not signed' boxes I keep having to clear on XP.

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