IN my opinion this is not a problem with VRRP.  In fact it is a
"function" with the switch that is connected to.  See spanning tree
protocol kicks in at this stage.  First failover happen almost
immediately because the MAC is in the switches CAM tables, so when one
link goes down the frames are still forwarded to the VRRP Mac.

Now when the link comes back up spanning tree takes over and goes
through the listening, learning and forwarding states.  For Cisco the
default "max root" spanning tree protocol time out is 15 seconds.

For people unknowing of spanning tree it is an algorithm that prevents
layer 2 loops it listens, learns, blocks/forwards frames.

So this is why I have found that when the primary VRRPed Firewalls
interface comes online that is what happens.

Stephen

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Subject: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10

Mell,

This is not a cold reboot. We did a test by running FTP thru the primary
and
pulled
out the cable so that it fails over to secondary (which it did in 4
secs)
but when we
plugged the cable back in the primary again, it took approx 20 secs to
failback from
secondary to primary and FTP stops.

Failover from Master to Secondary - 4 secs
Failover from Secondary back to Primary - 20 secs or more

Well we did try the cold start delay (30, 60, 120 secs) but didnt work
though.
Anyhow, we will try again. There's a resolution from Nokia on this and
we
tried it
but couldnt get it to solve the problem.

Any other config that we shud try?

Thank you.
Ay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mellor, Derin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10


> Is this a cold reboot?
>
> VRRP is fairly slow recovering, ~20s.
>
> If the Master recovers VRRP will immediately switch all session to
flow
> through the Master. This can cause problems as CP might not have
> finished installing (i.e. it has the default filter loaded,
> synchronization of connection table is not complete).
>
> The effect is that existing connections move back to the Master. Until
> the correct security policy and synchonization is loaded the packets
> will be at best dropped. Normally, once CP is full initialized and
> synchronized the sessions continue - this will cause a glitch and
> possibly dump connections.
>
> From my testing it could take ~45s for CP to initialize and
synchronize
> connection tables. To solve this problem you need to hold VRRP. In the
> VRRP configuration page configure VRRP Cold Start Delay to 60s (this
> will ensure that CP initializes and synchronizes). This effectively
> delays VRRP from starting for the specified time period.
>
> Assuming this is your issue, the recover should be sleamless.
>
> Hope this of use.
>
> Derin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Yeow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 December 2002 07:34
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> Anyone experienced problems when secondary fails back to primary fw?
>
> Problem is, it takes 15-30 seconds to failback from secondary to
> primary. Secondly, after failing back from secondary to primary,
> existing FTP connections never continues.
>
>
> Here's a brief scenario on what's going on
> =================================================
> 1. VRRP alone on Nokia is working fine.
> 2. Primary fails over to secondary is working fine.
>     - Primary is able to fail to secondary within 2-4 timeouts
>     - Ping continues with only 2-4 timeouts
>     - FTP stops for fraction of time and its able to continue
>
> BUT
>
> 3. When failing back from secondary to primary it takes approx
>     15 - 30 request timeouts.
>     - Ping session stops with 15-30 timeouts before replies comes in
>     - FTP stops and never resumes connection even after the ping
> replies.
>        (that means users will need to reconnect and download again)
>
>
> Any ideas or solutions to this?
>
> Thanks
> Alan
>
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