Title: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10
Hi all,
 
               Could someone maybe help me to resolve this problem??
I Have a Dell Machine with two 1.2 giga processor, and 4 token ring NIC´s. The secure Plataform FP3 work fine until I start the VPN tunnel, when this happen the enforcement module reboots, I test too with another machine, and the error is exactly the same. There are some incompatible with token ring cards??
 

Thanking you in anticipation,

Eduardo Gui
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De: Mellor, Derin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviada em: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:56 AM
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Assunto: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10

Ay,
 
Have you checked that both the firewalls times are very close - within 10s of each other?
 
Derin
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Yeow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tue 17/12/2002 06:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10

Mell,

We did check the sync for both fws and both seems to be up.
#cphaprob state

Run tcpdumps on both sides of fws and both seems to have I/O
on the sync interfaces.

Nokia Resolution - 3636
Said that it's a known issue and given some solution to it but to
no avail. Cold start & link delay recogz didnt help either.

FTP is still having problem failing back from Sec to Primary.
Anyhow, we will check out the fw ctl pstat and look at the connx
tables.

Thanks
Ay

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mellor, Derin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10


> Have you checked whether the CP Sync is operational?
>
> fw ctl pstat
>
> Reports the current state of the sync process. This should report see
> both incoming and outgoing packets at both firewalls.
>
> Better still looking in the connection table for the ftp command and
> data sessions at both firewalls.
>
> Derin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Yeow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 12 December 2002 02:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10
>
>
> Mell,
>
> This is not a cold reboot. We did a test by running FTP thru the primary
> and pulled out the cable so that it fails over to secondary (which it
> did in 4 secs) but when we plugged the cable back in the primary again,
> it took approx 20 secs to failback from secondary to primary and FTP
> stops.
>
> Failover from Master to Secondary - 4 secs
> Failover from Secondary back to Primary - 20 secs or more
>
> Well we did try the cold start delay (30, 60, 120 secs) but didnt work
> though. Anyhow, we will try again. There's a resolution from Nokia on
> this and we tried it but couldnt get it to solve the problem.
>
> Any other config that we shud try?
>
> Thank you.
> Ay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mellor, Derin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10
>
>
> > Is this a cold reboot?
> >
> > VRRP is fairly slow recovering, ~20s.
> >
> > If the Master recovers VRRP will immediately switch all session to
> > flow through the Master. This can cause problems as CP might not have
> > finished installing (i.e. it has the default filter loaded,
> > synchronization of connection table is not complete).
> >
> > The effect is that existing connections move back to the Master. Until
>
> > the correct security policy and synchonization is loaded the packets
> > will be at best dropped. Normally, once CP is full initialized and
> > synchronized the sessions continue - this will cause a glitch and
> > possibly dump connections.
> >
> > From my testing it could take ~45s for CP to initialize and
> > synchronize connection tables. To solve this problem you need to hold
> > VRRP. In the VRRP configuration page configure VRRP Cold Start Delay
> > to 60s (this will ensure that CP initializes and synchronizes). This
> > effectively delays VRRP from starting for the specified time period.
> >
> > Assuming this is your issue, the recover should be sleamless.
> >
> > Hope this of use.
> >
> > Derin
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Yeow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 09 December 2002 07:34
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [FW-1] VRRP - NGFP 2 and IPSO3.5fcs10
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Anyone experienced problems when secondary fails back to primary fw?
> >
> > Problem is, it takes 15-30 seconds to failback from secondary to
> > primary. Secondly, after failing back from secondary to primary,
> > existing FTP connections never continues.
> >
> >
> > Here's a brief scenario on what's going on
> > =================================================
> > 1. VRRP alone on Nokia is working fine.
> > 2. Primary fails over to secondary is working fine.
> >     - Primary is able to fail to secondary within 2-4 timeouts
> >     - Ping continues with only 2-4 timeouts
> >     - FTP stops for fraction of time and its able to continue
> >
> > BUT
> >
> > 3. When failing back from secondary to primary it takes approx
> >     15 - 30 request timeouts.
> >     - Ping session stops with 15-30 timeouts before replies comes in
> >     - FTP stops and never resumes connection even after the ping
> > replies.
> >        (that means users will need to reconnect and download again)
> >
> >
> > Any ideas or solutions to this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Alan
> >
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