Title: RE: [FW1] Nokia failover
The reason why IPSO does not respond to network connections that terminate
at a VRRP IP Address is because the implementation of VRRP adheres to
RFC 2338.
 
As Scott McMeekin has noted, IPSO is evolving at a fast rate and an RFE has
been submitted regarding this issue. Note only would it be useful to be able to
query the virtual firewall in order to determine which physical firewall is currently
the master, but the ability for IPSO to accept network connections which terminate
at a VRRP IP address would support the use of the Nokia Applications platform for
any other mission critical application for which HA would be justifiable.
 
Given that a security enforcement perimeter consists of firewalls, IDS', anti-virus
servers, etc... one would think that it is not only the firewall for which we would want
a backup system.
 
I am looking forward to the next release of IPSO which may include a Network Voyager
switch within the VRRP configuration page which basically enables IPSO to accept
these connections.
 
Jerald Josephs
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Keser
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [FW1] Nokia failover

When I was at Nokia we had a few customer requests for that feature.

The whole point is it does tell you something is there, not necessarily what you think is there but something is responding.  For troubleshooting purposes I could see it being useful to be able to ping or traceroute to the VIP.

-PaulK

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rogue Bolo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 3:46 PM
> To: Paul Keser; 'McMeekin, Scott'; 'hermit1';
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [FW1] Nokia failover
>
>
> Why would you want to ping a virtual anything? It
> tells you nothing about any piece of hardware, only
> that something is responding to ICMP requests.
>
> --- Paul Keser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's no reason it couldn't.  All that is
> > necessary is to either change
> > the RFC or break it...There are definitely times
> > where pinging the VIP would
> > be very useful.
> >
> > -PaulK
> >
> > *********************************************
> > Paul Keser
> > Network Security Engineer
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > tel:   415.351.4037
> > fax:  415.474.6017
> >
> > ShopExpert.com
> > 1375 Sutter Street, Suite 400
> > San Francisco, CA  94109
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> >
> >
> > >   Well we're in the realms of academic discussion
> > here,
> > > but since it's
> > > pertinent to fw-1 (sort-of), I'll continue. In an
> > MC setup,
> > > say you have a
> > > primary and a secondary firewall participating in
> > VRRP across the same
> > > subnet. The primary firewall will effectively
> > "own" or handle all ARP
> > > requests for the virtual IP, it routes all traffic
> > for the
> > > VIP, so why can't
> > > it respond to pings? 
> >
>
>
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