Fantastic. As an ATC, I cannot nor would not comment on the quality of the
courseware, however I have found that Check Point has left me quite a bit of
room for value-adding. I am always interested in the viewpoints of others
that have taken the class and what they think of the courseware and labs
provided by checkpoint, but Check Point may or may not wish for those
opinions to appear on their mailing list.
I assume RISC is using the flavia coffee machines, as we do, and check point
does. I like it too. It is too bad we are competitors. I rarely get to
discuss what other trainers and training centers are doing to improve their
courses.
I offer training integrated with WebSense, WebTrends, Netscape LDAP, Real
Secure, and ESAFE anti-virus. I also make sure that people leave with
real-world knowledge that can be applied directly to their own environments.
It sounds like the guys at RISC are doing just that too.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [FW1] Has anyone used CPMAD
>
> I've been to RISC Management and did enjoy the capabilities of the
> instructors and the class environment. The coffee machine was cool also.
> They did a good job of moving away from near disastrous courseware, and
> providing good instruction.
>
> -tpoole
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [FW1] Has anyone used CPMAD
>
>
>
> To better add value for that class WE at RISCmanagement, Inc do port
> scans
> and successive logon's while enabling CPMAD so students can get a good
> feel
> on what it actually does and how it works! Rather than breezing through
> the
> chapter and telling student "Hey sorry, but no labs for this chapter!".
>
> --Michael
> www.riscman.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Schindler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:08 PM
> To: Samuel Wuethrich; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [FW1] Has anyone used CPMAD
>
>
>
> The global setting is on. I am running everything on one machine. I
> get no
> messages in the log regarding "sam inhibit", nothing but the normal
> failed
> on cleanup rule message.
>
> BTW This is not a production system. It is lab testing only. I train
> Check
> Point and there is no lab for CPMAD and I have never actually heard of
> anyone using it and I can't get it to do anything.
>
> I am testing whether this is a marketing thing from Check Point or
> something
> that actually adds value. If there is no lab, it makes me wonder if
> they
> can even get it to work. But so few people use it, I can't get any
> feedback.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Samuel Wuethrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Scott Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 10:55 AM
> Subject: RE: [FW1] Has anyone used CPMAD
>
>
> > I've deal with this when I've set up Real Secure 5.0. Maybe
> > MAD_system_mode=off instead on, found in
> $FWDIR/conf/cmpad_config.conf.
> > You
> > should receive some log entries with column 'Type' equal control and
> > column
> > 'Info' begins with 'SAM inhibit'. That what's happend when I try nmap
> > (CP
> > FW-1 4.1 SP2 DES).
> > Another question: The ela proxy is running on the same platform as MAD
> > is
> > running??
> >
> > Regards,
> > sAM
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Schindler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Dienstag, 29. August 2000 16:43
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [FW1] Has anyone used CPMAD
> >
> >
> > The courseware does not come with a lab, so I used syn4k and nmap to
> > attack
> > a firewall. CPMAD is enabled by default, but I had to enable port
> scan
> > detection. CPMAD did absolutely nothing. And I could have easily
> > filled
> > the hard drive with log entries. 4000 entries in about 45 seconds.
> >
> > Anyone have experience out there with CPMAD and actually use it or
> have
> > seen
> > it work? It defaults to fwalert, but no alerts showed up in system
> > status.
> >
> > I am looking for those with actual experience only. I am not looking
> > for
> > web links.
>
>
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