Another option is Radware's Linkproof appliance which handles multiple ISP connections 
without requiring BGP.

Pat Scopelliti

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> From:         Mark L. Decker[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:         Thursday, November 02, 2000 11:17 PM
> To:   'CryptoTech'
> Cc:   'Gunjan Mathur at 9netave'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [FW1] Multiple WAN Links.
> 
> Agreed.  If transparent failover is your top priority, BGP is the better solution.  
>If you host web servers internally that need to be reached from the outside world, 
>BGP also prevents you from having to play games with DNS to provide access to those 
>servers in the event of link failure.  BGP has plenty of negatives (uneven load 
>sharing, complex configuration, requires AS number and cooperation from both ISPs, 
>giant routing tables that eat gobs of router CPU and RAM, etc.), but it is still the 
>only solution that provides transparent failover for both inbound and outbound 
>sessions in the event of link failure.
>  
> RainWall as a multi-homing solution is really most effective as cheap protection and 
>link load balancing for outbound Internet access and email (with multiple MX 
>records).  If you don't care so much that connections have to be re-established after 
>failover, it's a viable option.  Otherwise, BGP is the way to go.
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: CryptoTech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 7:40 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Cc: 'Gunjan Mathur at 9netave'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject: Re: [FW1] Multiple WAN Links.
> 
> 
>       If this will be a cluster configuration -- that is, allowing session failover, 
>and if necessary, vpn-failover, then the two boxes will be defined as a cluster, 
>therefore each internal subnet must be hidden behind one ip.  If you decide to break 
>the state synchronization by configuring the two boxes as totally separate entities, 
>and allowing yourself to enforce different hide addresses for the same subnet on two 
>boxes, you will run into problems with dynamically generated web pages when failover 
>occurs, because the source address for a session will change and the remote server 
>will be unable to swap the remote association. 
> 
>       Don't get me wrong, Rainfinity is a great product, but to do this solution 
>flawlessly, you should still listen to the first response 
> 
>       "Mark L. Decker" wrote: 
> 
>                Actually, there is a way to do this (at least for outbound access and 
>mail) without BGP, but it requires two firewalls in a RainWall cluster.  You connect 
>one firewall to ISP A and the other firewall to ISP B, and both to the same internal 
>subnet.  The firewall A does NAT using range from ISP A, and firewall B does NAT 
>using range from ISP B.  Then you set up the RainWall Ping Monitor to watch the ISP 
>links.  If link to ISP A goes down, RainWall can automatically disable firewall A, 
>and move its internal IP address to firewall B, thereby redirecting users out to ISP 
>B.  This also allows load sharing of outbound traffic between the two links.  It does 
>not help in the case of inbound access to an internally hosted webserver, but mail 
>will still work if you use multiple MX records.  Failover is automatic, but not 
>transparent (because src/dest pair changes).  Not a perfect solution, but then 
>neither is BGP.Mark L. DeckerRainfinity [EMAIL PROTECTED](408) 382-4870 
> 
>                       -----Original Message----- 
>                       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ 
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CryptoTech 
>                       Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 6:12 AM 
>                       To: Gunjan Mathur at 9netave 
>                       Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>                       Subject: Re: [FW1] Multiple WAN Links. 
>                        
>                       This can only be handled by BGP and cooperation between the 
>ISP's.  FireWall-1 will not change it's security policy/nat policy when a wan link 
>drops. > 
> 
>                       Gunjan Mathur at 9netave wrote: > 
> 
>                               I have two WAN links using PPP with static routes 
>>from diff. ISP, 
>                               Now I want if my one links goes down then automatical 
>second link handel all 
>                               the things and if both are up then load balancing will 
>happen. 
> 
>                               and I'm using NATting of my LAN traffic on firewall 
>with one ISP's IP range. 
>                               If the link of this ISP goes down then all my LAN 
>users are unable to access 
>                               the net,b'caz of this NATting. 
>                               How I configure my structure in such a way if one the 
>link of NATting ISP's 
>                               is down then second link handel the traffic. 
>                                 
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> 
>                               GM 
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