I have some bad experience with the Spyc parser Symfony uses for YAML, namely having to raise my memory_limit to more than 128mb to get it working with some YAML files.
I haven't dug into it's code, but thinking that Symfony sometimes uses it on-line (and not only for CLI), got me kind of scared. I think that while YAML is nice and easy to read/write (for humans), there is only that much you can go for your lazy users - and while I hate writing XML, I see it as a much better option for configuration files (for now) because PHP has native, super-fast parsing abilities for it. Writing a parser for YAML or any other format in PHP will have major performance drawbacks any way you put it. Unless YAML language and configuration files are translated off-line into some kind of faster format (XML or even better, PHP code) I won't use them in production. Then again, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option ;) Shahar. On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 15:40 -0700, Pádraic Brady wrote: > I think a little code generation can go a long way. It really does get > kind of repetitive having to setup a base application scaffold for > each new project unless you sit down and create a standard scaffold > which you reuse everywhere. > > I put a YAML proposal in the wiki a while back. There's some code > attached but its non-functional until I refactor some of the > offsetting in the Parser class so the lexer can have its fun. > > I think Yaml is an interesting format but it depends on what it's > needed for. Supporting a subset of the format is a lot faster than > supporting the whole spec (requires far less parsing). The current > proposal is for the entire spec (excluding Unicode support for the > moment), with an option for an alternative subset for those files > which don't need the whole sledgehammer. I believe people only ever > need a subset anyway unless doing really complex stuff. It takes just > a single class for a subset, but a proper parser to be completely > certain of the entire specification details. > > Regards, > Paddy > > Pádraic Brady > http://blog.astrumfutura.com > http://www.patternsforphp.com > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: unknownman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > fw-general@lists.zend.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:34:33 PM > Subject: RE: [fw-general] Zend Framework Cli Tool > > Btw, if you're already on the topic of XML. One of the things we were > thinking of doing post 1.0 is also adding YAML support to ZF and then > integrating the various components like Zend_Config & Zend_Translate > with it to provide the choice of the various formats to ZF users. > Not sure what format would be most suitable for such a tool but it's > something for you to also consider longer term. Or maybe you just > support Zend_Config and it'll work with whatever back-end there is. > > Andi > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: unknownman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:21 PM > > To: fw-general@lists.zend.com > > Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework Cli Tool > > > > > > yeah , i believe that ZF isnt symphony but in this shell code > > i want to use an xml file that generate application > > schematic, note that these scripts isnt for generating new > > project, i want to add some feature like scaffold in rails to it. > > > > Andries Seutens wrote: > > > > > > > > > unknownman schreef: > > >> nice work but i think that like this community must be a > community > > >> for discussion about needed tools > > >> > > >> > > >> Nico Edtinger-2 wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi unknown man! > > >>> > > >>> [20.06.2007 12:35] unknownman wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> one of the great tool for rails is the its great script > > directory > > >>>> that you can make big project in a minute > > >>>> > > >>> There's something like this in lab called Primitus (FKA > ZFApp): > > >>> > > http://framework.zend.com/fisheye/browse/Zend_Framework_Laboratory/ > > >>> Primitus > > >>> > > >>> But it seems like it needs an update. > > >>> > > >>> nico > > >>> > > > > > > I'm not a fan of these auto code generation tools, remeber the > Zend > > > Framework isn't Symfony ... > > > > > > I have recently published a small article to get you > > started on the ZF. > > > There's a modular and conventional "app" available at: > > > > > > > > > http://andries.systray.be/blog/2007/06/18/zend-framework-just-get-me-s > > > tarted-okay/ > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > -- > > > Andries Seutens > > > http://andries.systray.be > > > > > > > > > Gecontroleerd op virussen door de JOJO Secure Gateway. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://www.nabble.com/Zend-Framework-Cli-Tool-tf3951538s16154. > html#a11222462 > > Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. -- Shahar Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultant Zend Technologies Mobile: +972 54 30 99 446 Office: +972 3 75 39 500 ext. 9546
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