Hi Darby,

Thanks, this was the closest response to what I was looking to achieve. 
Although the other posts have prompted me to redesign my models because of
the problems/improvements suggested.

I think that the Data Mapper is what I'm looking for... but now I know the
pattern to look at, there is still little information out there about an
actual implementation and some concrete examples.  The patterns always look
so elegant on paper but I end up battling them out with my code and when I'm
finished I still don't know how closely I have followed the pattern.

My research has pointed me towards this article from the Prado site
http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=Database.SqlMap

This looks like a really neat way to organize an ever complex system of
objects.  I will study the implementation further.

Has anyone involved with the Zend Framework ever considered proposing a
Zend_Data_Mapper?

Cheers,

Sam



Darby Felton wrote:
> 
> Depending on your needs and the complexities of your applications, it
> may be worth investigating the Domain Model pattern [1]. Simple Domain
> Models may use Active Record [2] (Table Data Gateway [3] + Domain
> Logic), whereas more complex Domain Models need Data Mapper [4] and/or
> Service Layer [5].
> 

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