Rasmus Lerdorf had a new talk (froscon08) on framework performance in general and vs using no framework at all and came up with ZF being roughly in the mid-field (Cake being way slower, CodeIgniter being faster).
He also talked about some optimizing strategies regarding include path, and the include strategy in general, so i took some time to optimize within the Zend Framework and found interesting results: Stripping all require_once from the complete Zend Framework code, and require (without once) all file dependancies directly in your main script gives you a performance boost of about 20-40% for each request. See all the different include strategies and their numbers here: http://www.whitewashing.de/blog/articles/73 If requiring all the dependant files up front is to hard to find out, you could still optimize performance of the Zend Framework by fixing your include path (put /usr/share/php in front of the dot, rather the default config which work the other way round) and strip all require_once 'Zend/*'; code from your downloaded ZF library source code. On Tuesday 26 August 2008 19:27:27 Endijs Lisovskis wrote: > At first let me say THANKS for your reply! I was not expecting such a long > comment. I will definitely look at ZF 1.7 features and optimizations. > > I can't give you any links to articles where someone is pointing out that > ZF is slow, except one you already gave. But each time when I talk about > frameworks and ZF in particular I receive negative reactions and all of > theme are because of doubts about ZF performance. Those comments I receive > in my blog where I talk about ZF and even maybe promote it and in local PHP > forum too. > OK - those who comment cant provide exact numbers in which I could see > difference between ZF and other frameworks. But all they need to say - ZF > is complicated, big and with a lot of components etc. etc. And each version > is becoming bigger and bigger. I would like to argue, that growth in > features is not affecting speed - but I can't because there are no any > tests out there. > I hope you see the problem. In short "They say it is slow, but there is no > way we can prove they are wrong". > > And sorry for my grammar and structure of sentences. English is not my > mothers tongue, so it is not very easy for me to write in correct English. > > wllm wrote: > > Where have you heard that ZF is one of the slowest frameworks out there? > > While I haven't heard many claims that ZF is the most performant- that > > distinction is usually reserved for Code Igniter or one of the other > > lightweight, performance-focused frameworks- I haven't heard any claims > > that it is the least performant. The most transparent and sound > > benchmarks that I've seen are available here: > > http://www.avnetlabs.com/php/php-framework-comparison-benchmarks. That > > puts ZF at roughly 50% of the throughput of Code Igniter. That may sound > > like a lot at first, but as I mention in a comment there, baseline PHP > > can handle *15 times* the load than Code Igniter and CakePHP falls far > > short of both (at least in these particular tests). This article > > demonstrates well that accurate performance characterizations among > > different frameworks are *extremely* difficult to come up with in the > > first place, and that any framework faces tradeoffs between performance > > and functionality. In the end, I'm pretty comfortable with the > > characterization that ZF is 'twice as slow' as a framework that has been > > optimized from the get go for performance like Code Igniter. Those who > > understand the tests at hand and have real performance requirements will > > understand that this may easily be eclipsed by functionality > > requirements for any given project. > > That said, we are planning to focus all of the Zend team's contributions > > for 1.7 around performance analysis and enhancements. We don't have a > > test environment with which we can thoroughly benchmark all the > > frameworks yet, but we will have one set up soon. Once we can start > > getting good numbers, we will focus on the performance of the MVC > > components, along with other components- like Zend_Search_Lucene- which > > are very sensitive to algorithmic complexity and optimizations. We've > > already profiled the framework with a simple application and identified > > some optimizations. If you are interested in the performance of ZF, then > > keep your eyes peeled for optimization commits in the next few weeks. > > > > ,Wil > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Endijs Lisovskis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:30 AM > >> To: fw-general@lists.zend.com > >> Subject: [fw-general] Speed and performance between ZF releases > >> > >> > >> Hi! > >> > >> I wanted to ask - are there any tests done to compare ZF releases to > >> see > >> which ones are faster and uses less resources? > >> > >> I'm asking this, because when there are discussions about frameworks - > >> almost everyone says that ZF is one of slowest frameworks out there > > > > (if > > > >> compared to Symfony, Cake etc.). It would be good to know if ZF is > >> making > >> progress, or failing because of all new functions added to it. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Endijs Lisovskis > >> -- > >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Speed-and- > >> performance-between-ZF-releases-tp19164298p19164298.html > >> Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Benjamin Eberlei http://www.beberlei.de