Zend Framework provides flexibility. That's the point. You're probably not good enough to understand that. So I think it's one of the moments when you need to go somewhere else and learn something new. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM, aoohralex <aoohra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sry for my English – it isn't my national language. > > I have started learn ZF because I wanted to learn something new. > If we have range 0 – 10. My knowledge ZF is 1 – I can make basic things in > ZF – connect to database, queries insert/update/delete, basic zend forms, > authorization, use jquery and layout in zend, controllers, views. > My knowledge Symfony Framework is 5. My knowledge ASP.NET MVC (not ASP.NET > ) > is 4. > > Now I can say that ZF is very bad framework or maybe rather it isn't a > framework. Everybody knows that authors of PHP are always late and behind – > for example PHP is really OO from version v5 (eariel it was only some OO > elements in PHP). The same is in Zend Framework – this framework is behind > others frameworks. > > First - Zend_Db is nothing compared to Doctrine ORM. Using Zend_Db I have > to > create myself models: > http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart/create-a-model-and-database-table > !!!!! In Symfony Framework with Doctrine ORM and in ASP.NET MVC with Linq > to > SQL I don't need because it is wasting of time – there it is automatic – in > Symfony using console and in ASP.NET MVC using Visual Studio. Of course > Doctrine and Linq to SQL have got more better things. > > In Zend Framework almost nothing you can do using console (of course almost > nothing compared to Symfony) – in Symfony using console you can generate > much more (I don't use in Symfony console to generate modules, controllers > or forms but for begginners it is very comfortable). In ASP.NET MVC I > don't > need use console but Visual Studio but ASP.NET MVC is very young so > generated controllers/views etc. don't have so good code as in Symfony. In > ASP>NET MVC and Symfony Framework I don't need to enable layout like in > Zend > Framework. The most horrible thing in Zend it was for me Zend_Acl – using > that I can't still make that only logged users can have access to action > 'add' controller 'books' – in Symfony I can make that using 2 lines of code > in module 'books': > > add: > is_secure: on > > and in ASP.NET one line of code in controller: > > [Authorize] > > What is more in Symfony and ASP.NET MVC we have tables in database and > everything else related with users, authorization etc. created in these > frameworks – in Zend I must myself do that. > There is of course more good things in these frameworks – better than in > Zend. > > Documentation – hahah – in Zend documentation is chaotic, is HORRIBLE !! > Have you ever seen documentation of Symfony or ASP.NET MVC ? I have never > seen worse documentation than in Zend. > > For me Zend isn't a framework but rather components that we can use in > other > frameworks – for example Zend Lucene in Symfony: > http://www.symfony-project.org/jobeet/1_2/Doctrine/en/17 > > As I thought – authors of PHP are always late and they are always behind so > Zend is always late and behind. For now Symfony and ASP.NET MVC are from > XXI > age, Zend is from XX age. > > This was my compare these frameworks. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/grade-zend-framework-and-compared-to-Symfony-and-ASP.NET-MVC-tp25530860p25530860.html > Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Alexander Steshenko | http://lcf.name
