Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:54:27 +0100
Subject: Trading oversee
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Mittaux-Biron?=
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:54:27 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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" Just a little experience in buying stuff
oversee.
By beginning November 2002 I ordered PB
Wallstreet batteries=20
(internal + external) from WegenerMedia (ibookparts
and
powerbookpart=20
stores on internet), for an amount of $225,00, using
PayPal.
As I hadn't received anything by the beginning
of December, I=20
sent an eMail to WegenerMedia, stating that I was
still waiting for
my=20=
batteries and asking if everything was ok with my
order. The answer
I=20
got was not completely satisfying to me ("Did you
receive these
yet?"),=20=
but I thought that one month was not so much for
receiving this kind
of=20=
package from US to France, and I decided to wait some
more.
I guess this was a mistake: as I still hadn't
received anything
by=20=
the end of January, I sent another email to
Wegenermedia, but did
not=20
get any answer. A few days later, I sent another mail
stating that I=20
was considering to activate PayPal user complaint
procedure, and I=20
didn't get any answer.
So I turned to PayPal, and I got an answer from
them: I had
one=20
month to activate the user complaint procedure, and as
the delay was=20
ran off, they couldn't only ask WegenerMedia to do
their best to
solve=20=
the issue. At this date, I still don't have any news
from WegenerMedia.
Should I say that I feel like I reached the
limits of this kind
of=20=
trading:
- You don't really expect to receive your orders
using oversee=20
mails in one month, except if you decide to pay a lot
more for very=20
short delivery (which was not proposed to me when I
asked for
delivery=20=
costs), so you can't expect anything from PayPal or
other equivalent=20
services, even if you pay for using them,
- When you do this kind of transaction, it seems
that the only=20
thing you are sure of, is that the money you give will
be received,
not=20=
your order, specially when you work with what seems to
be dishonest=20
companies or people.
I can imagine that my order was really sent by
WegenerMedia,
and=20
might have been lost between them and my home. What I
can't
understand=20=
is that I did the best to ensure that my money was
effectively sent
to=20=
WegenerMedia, but that the equivalent was not done by
them: I did
not=20
receive my order, I couldn't get any answer from them,
even after=20
asking PayPal (but did PayPal really get in touch with
them ?). The=20
result is that I paid a fair amount of money... for
nothing.
I really feel like angry: loosing money is a bad
thing by
itself,=20=
but when you are completely left by the one who took
your money and=20
don't even give the appearance to care, is even more
difficult to=20
accept.
Well, maybe I am rather naive and this kind of
things happens=20
everyday. In this case, this mail will, at least
permit to share my=20
experience and to remind people to be very cautious,
much more than
I=20
was.
G=E9rard."
------------------------------
It looks like I'm not the only one having problems
with Dave Wegener at Wegener Media. I've been trying
to straighten out some of his dealings for months. At
present I'm waiting for the return of $299 and 512 MB
of RAM which he personnaly promised.
Gerard, if you can not get satisfaction with a
situation such as yours, I would suggest the
following:
1. Report your payment to Paypal as fraudulent.
2. If you used US Mail for any transferrals or
communication, inform them of any illegal activity,
ie. fraud
3. Communicate your situation, as you have done, to
others that may use the services. The more people that
know of your problem, the fewer people will deal with
someone disreputable.
Hopefully, we will both be able offer retractions to
our comments if we are only seeing a normal delay and
nothing illegal is taking place. So far, based on my
experiance, I would suggest people should reconsider
if tempted to do businness with Dave Wegener or
Wegener Media.
Don Pruitt
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