On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 01:02  AM, David Clark wrote:

> Ahhh... THAT produced some results! Several "checking this/ checking
> that" messages and the "The volume Mac OS X appears to be OK" message.
> Previously, I have only tried from a terminal. Call me stupid, but
> shouldn't I get something similar when I run it from Terminal?

fsck skips any partitions marked as checked (i.e. OK), so since you are 
booted up normally, the system disk is marked as OK (either on startup, 
or because nothing happened to make it think otherwise).  It therefore 
skips it.  It is possible to *force* fsck to check your system disk:

sudo fsck /dev/disk0s5 (or whatever partition your system is located on)

BUT... you should not run fsck in multi-user mode, only in single-user 
(boot holding down Command-S).  BAD things can happen otherwise.  This 
is the same reason Disk Utility won't verify your system disk unless 
you boot from CD.

> It's always said that running fsck
> -y is a good idea before any installations or other funny business,
> which is why I brought this up in the first place...

If you need to ask these types of questions, you should probably be 
sticking with Disk Utility after booting from an OS X CD.  It uses the 
same libraries as fsck to check the HFS+ filesystem.  Running fsck with 
the -y can do tremendous damage without you being able to stop it, so 
don't unless you know specifically why you are doing it.

(Fooling around with disks in *nix is one thing that can really "fsck" 
things up as they say.  This is why OS X users are "cursed" -- they 
have power at their fingertips most people don't need.  I strongly 
encourage the exploration of *nix through OS X -- it's perhaps the best 
platform for such a task -- but don't use commands -- particularly disk 
commands -- unless you know precisely why you are doing so and what the 
results will be.  Learn how disks work, how *nix handles disks, the 
HFS+ filesystem, etc. before taking risks like using fsck, newfs, etc.)

This is not directed at any one person in particular, and I am not 
trying to sit on my high horse (as I'm sure there are people on this 
list who know more about these things than I).  I just plead with all 
of you to heed my advice -- just this afternoon a friend of mine hosed 
80GB worth of data by playing around with disk tools on his 
newly-installed Linux box.  Don't be a victim!

--Chris
iBook 700Mhz X.2.4
PM 7500/200 OS 8.6
PM 4400/200 OS 8.6, NetBSD


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