On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:01 am +0100, Susan Platter wrote:

>Useful though they are, neither of those links answers my query about
>why reset-nvram did not appear to work for me, as in my quoted
>paragraph starting,"When I tried this on my Wallstreet..."
>Any offers?

I just did a search in my file of 'things that might be useful one day'
and found this - I don't even know if it came from this list originally:

>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:50:07 -0600
>From: Frederico
>Subject: Open Firmware WILL work on PowerBook G3 (Wallstreet II)
>
>Regarding the inability of some folks to get into Open Firmware (Command-
>Option-O-F) on PowerBook G3 233-266-292-300 models (Wallstreet II, PDQ),
>I can promise you it is possible, and it can be done on either Restart or
>Cold Start, whether or not you have Jaguar installed and/or set as the
>Startup Disk. I just double checked my G3-266/14", and it goes into Open
>Firmware v2.0.1 on a regular restart from OS X 10.2.6.
>
>While it's possible that there's a particular version of these units
>which won't accept the command, or maybe the early Wallstreet (I) models
>lack OF, I've never met one in dozens and dozens of tries, and this is
>something we routinely do to *every* PowerBook that comes in for any type
>of troubleshooting or upgrade.
>
>For those having trouble, a few hints/suggestions:
>
>· press ALL four keys (Command-Option-O-F -- that's Apple-Alt-oh-ef for
>the fontifically challenged) at the SAME TIME, *immediately* upon hearing
>-- even during -- the Startup Chime. If you wait even one or two seconds,
>or depress the keys one or two at a time, it is very easy for the Boot
>ROM to miss your command call.
>
>· Make sure your Command, Option, O and F keys are clean and responsive
>by using Keycaps or similar program prior to attempt, if you're still
>having trouble.
>
>· If your keys fail to respond properly, just attach any known-good ADB
>keyboard.
>
>· For reference, nearly all "Old World" Macs reset only PRAM when using
>Command-Option-P-R from a Restart; using the same Command-Option-P-R from
>a Cold Start (Power OFF to Power ON) will reset NVRAM and PRAM, thus, the
>'reset-nvram' command in Open Firmware is unnecessary; however, resetting
>NVRAM is still advisable in this battery/PMU reset effort.
>
>· the 'reset-all' command in Open Firmware resets all kinds of things,
>both documented and undocumented, particularly things on the PCI/PCMCIA
>bus, like video, and issues using Type I or II expansion cards. Resetting
>it has never hurt anything that I'm aware of.
>
>My advice:
>
>    * Power OFF the PowerBook
>    * Remove the battery
>    * Install AC power
>    * Power ON the PowerBook
>    * *immediately* depress Command-Option-P-R
>    * continue holding for a total of three chimes
>    * upon hearing the third chime, immediately release the keys and
>instead press Command-Option O-F
>    * In Open Firmware, type: reset-all
>    * press Return, type: bye
>    * press Return
>    * ...the PowerBook will now boot normally into the first System
>Folder found on the first partition of the internal drive.
>    * If you get the Flashing '?', use any OS 9.1 or higher boot CD (the
>CD or the Classic System Folder must contain a new enough version of
>Startup Disk CP to reset OS X as your Startup Disk).
>    * If you wish, you may repeat the above with each of your problem
>batteries installed, but it shouldn't be necessary.
>
>For reference, I have an original PowerBook battery that gets about 3-3.5
>hours of mostly continuous use, using AirPort (Type I slot) or Modem,
>iTunes, Safari, Entourage and Word, and an occasional launch of Classic/
>Emailer. I have a fairly new battery (about a year), that I can push to
>nearly four. I simply don't recall if OS 8-9 use when brand new was much
>better. Any game play (Diablo II/LoD; Dungeon Seige; etc.) will eat up
>either in about 2 hours or less.
>
>Overall, with the exception of noticeably shorter battery life under OS X
>10.2.3 (or was it 10.2.4?), I have enjoyed good overall battery use since
>OS X 10.1 Puma.


TimH


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