The National Enquirer reports at 11:46 AM -0500 11/12/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>At 01:54 AM -0700 11/12/2004, Bob wrote: > >I had occasion to check out > >the Roxio web site today and I looked to see what updated information > >I could pick up on any newer versions of the Adaptec UDF extension. > >All I could find was version 1.0.4, which is the version that I've > >had since 1999. When I re-read the README file that I had, it > >indicated that v. 1.0.4 allowed access of UDF 1.5. > >Right, it's version 1.0.4 of the extension. >It supports the UDF 1.0, 1.0.2, and 1.5 standards. Backward compatibility makes sense. > >Since you mentioned UDF 2.0 & 2.0.1 in your previous reply, and you > >stated "Adaptec UDF Volume Access, which supports those newer > >standards," can you provide any further detail on what newer versions > >are available and what UDF versions they support? I'd like to snag > >them if I can find them. > >For OS 8/9, that Adaptec extension also seems to support some of the >UDF 2 features. While it apparently it isn't full support, it's >enough that all our new "foreign" (non-US) DVDs we have read just >fine. Partial UDF 2 support is something that I did not know. >For OS X, ... I'm still looking. > >OS X is in worse shape than 8/9. Apple's full UDF support once again >stops at the 1.02 standard. And since Roxio hasn't updated their >extension to work on X, there simply is no ?easy? support for 1.5 or >2.x. > >See the "UDF CDs in OS X?" thread in G-Books archive, from 10/26 for details. I still have that thread, and after re-reading the messages, I distinctly remember the original discussion. >At this point... > >1) Apple Support's official response, via telephone, is that Macs >running OS X simply cannot read UDF 1.5 CDs. Some UDF 1.5 DVDs are >supported. There is no support for UDF 2. Apparently due to their lack of interest combined with PO'ing Adaptec. >2) But from terminal in Panther, you can view man pages that say full >UDF 1.5 is there, although it doesn't say CD or DVD specifically. >I'm currently puttering within to see if I can force a mount. Does that pertain to Panther only (no Jaguar support)? > And >I'm looking at the Linux UDF open source project - maybe it can be >easily adapted. I'm waiting to hear what http://www.softarch.com/index.html is going to end up actually supporting. Hopefully they will be one company that feels like the Mac & OS X is worth supporting. >3) I'm getting the impression that there is support for UDF 1.5 and 2 >in the latest Roxio Toast products. Still waiting for Roxio to >confirm this. But that's a $$$$$ solution for mostly unnecessary >software. :\ It's doubly irksome since Adaptec UDF support has been free for so long. I agree with you, I don't want to invest in Toast *just* to get UDF support. >4) Got Windows? All our UDF CDs and DVDs read just fine on our Dell. > ><rant> sigh. This situation is a total embarrassment for Apple, IMO. >It is unconscionable that their high-end computers, targetted to the >multimedia market, can't even read modern CDs and DVDs! UDF is the >underlying file system on *all* video DVDs! UDF 1.5 has been around >for YEARS! It's not like it's so new... *grumble* Dell *grumble* >*frustration* </rant> Agreed 100%. Especially with the mantra of the digital hub. You wouldn't think they would want a hub with some faulty ports. :-/ Thanks for all of the good information. It's nice to have someone so knowledgeable about the subject on the list. Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---------------------------------------------------------------