On Jan 25, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Scott wrote:
You don't get it, the guy made a joke about Apple Posting don't eat the iPods. . I laughed my 888 off, excuse me.
On 25 Jan 2005, at 04:51, Geoffrey Loeffler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you serious, good laugh, good..good good laugh..ohmy They wonder why we 17th in the world in education.
You still just don't get it. Why are you personally attacking others? You are the problem. Look at yourself. Look at what you have written in this list. Look at your usage of English. Dylan Moore makes very good points and comments without attacking you or anyone. Also, Dylan Moore's use of English is correct and standard. While you are the one making comments such as the one above.
I do not lie, it's easier to remeber what you said and a moral line I do not cross. Just me.
This I certainly admire and believe to be a moral attribute of the highest order. I commend you on this positive life choice. I also made this choice for myself long ago, as it is better and easier to remember the truth than a lie, and it is better and easier to hurt and heal from the truth than from a lie. Personally, this is why I choose Apple (Steve Jobs' company) over Microsoft (Bill Gates' company). Apple is infinitely more honest and trustworthy than Microsoft. Both are businesses intent on making money, yet Apple cares about it's products, employees, and customers, while Microsoft seems to have no standards, morals, or ethics about how they do business or who they hurt in the process.
And I expect that from Apple and that's why I support them also. Not to get the response that something was spilled in the book. That was lie, plus we never touched your other parts that was lie. People rant here about what they pick out of a long list of tidbits not really reading, but just ranting so how can you be objective. You have it all wrong and I could care less. I just believe in holding a company to the fire when their wrong. Apple was wrong, about what, you do not know
But not release information that the employee knew about my personal relationship with Apple, that's the difference, they posted something only a Apple employee would know. That's wrongMost corporations monitor the internet for sites that relate anything to them. Either through their own security or outside companies. Get too far into the real stuff and they will bight. In fact Apple just sued some site for releasing information prior to their last Mac Fest.
That site officially published and publicly presented secret information that it had no right to do so on its front page, similar to a newspaper or magazine, big difference from discussion groups. That same information had been rumoured, discussed and tossed around in forums, lists, and discussion groups for months prior, yet none of those groups were shut down. Apple or any other company just doesn't have the resources to "patrol" or even roam the millions of various discussion groups on the internet. And ultimately, why would they? Most of the time it is pointless for them. Do you think Apple is concerned about what I am writing to you in this list right now? Come on now, let's be realistic. I can understand a company reacting to harmful publication of information, but trolling for it in discussion groups, that is just unrealistic and paranoid. Now if employees of a company happen to be involved in a particular discussion group on their own time, then that seems realistic and plausible. If I were an employee of Apple, then I'd still be a member of this group, not because I am trolling for subversion, but because I enjoy using Apple products and
I enjoy the forum.
Well unlike the lemmings I have done things about the loss of our constitutional rights and live in a place where every elected official told the Leader they will not support and will not provide information unless a court order shows good cause. They and we all signed a petition saying we will not support the Patriotic act. Old Ashcroft came running for a 3 day tour. The reception was so bad he left the next day back to Washington with army security.but open speech and thought seems to be one of the many things we slowly are losing. It seems so innocuous everyone kinda goes along as it just the way it is today, pass the cheeseburger.
This I whole-heartedly agree with, and seems quite true, unfortunately. The public as a whole does not respond to the tiny little bits of freedom we lose every year. Yet, ten or twenty years on we look up and say, "What happened to our freedom?" I am not personally choosing this loss of freedom for myself, yet unfortunately I am a part of a society that IS choosing this loss of freedom for itself as a whole, like a bunch of lemmings. Everyone I talk with agrees and does not like it, but nothing gets done and every year we lose a little bit more freedom. Turn off that TV! Unplug it, kill
it, throw it away! Stay away from fast food! Get outside and exercise! Change your world for the better!
So I have done things, I come here and your right lemmings, as long as they can get the 4WD gonzo truck that never gets used in 4WD, except through the fast food place, there fat and happy. Not aware of of what is gone, not slowly it's gone. "PAT 1 is supposed to sunset, but was good at getting terrorist PAT 2 will be just as good at getting criminals". HE HE HE.
GWB
This is a long story that got chewed up and people spit out what they wanted and so the real life of the story is lost. The sad thing is we should be able to discuss the good and the bad of Apple. As the core users it's beyond me why this is impossible. The evangelistic days are over. Apple has great opportunity, but when a guy says my month old iBook screen does not work and he needs it for school. Apple should fix it, replace it, do whatever to keep the customer happy. First rule of business.
I am sorry my view is the only supporting view.
Live well and good luck
Geoff
(in Geoff's positive words to you all) Good health to everyone, -- Scott
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