On 10/15/02 11:52 AM, "Mark Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 15:33 Europe/London, Matthew Elliott wrote:
>> I have a G4 867mhz machine running OS 10.2.1 , Geforce 4 MX card and I
>> play
>> Medal of Honor Allied assault getting 40 to 50 fps on it.  I have
>> Built a
>> PeeCee with ECS K7s motherboard with a Duron 1.3 GHz processor and a
>> Geforce
>> 3 ti card and it blows my mac out of the water with games.(I hate to
>> say
>> that)  I do not use it for anything other then games.  However you can
>> build
>> a PC for pennies on the dollar compared to purchasing a new Mac.
>> 
>> So I love my Mac and I use it on a daily basis, but when it comes down
>> to
>> which computer I want to use to get the best graphics and frame rates
>> in my
>> games, I use the PC.  Cheap and fast, not to reliable.  When I want to
>> check
>> Email, use Photoshop,  iChat, iCal, iTunes, browse the internet or
>> anything
>> else I use my wonderful Mac.  Actually I have two G4's, a Beige G3, a
>> iBook,
>> a performa 6214 and a PeeCee.
> 
> OK here's another games comparison, I find games a good 'technological
> edge' benchmark as they really stretch the 3D and CPU hardware to the
> max. I run a G3/400 w/ 384MB RAM and a Rage 128. My buddy that I was
> roomed next to at University until June had a 450MHz PIII (old slot 1
> machine) with PC100 RAM and a Riva TNT2 32MB AGP card in. I reckon my
> G3, with AGP and 512MB RAM as his PC had would have been a match for it.
> 
> HOWEVER. We also had in our house a QS G4/733 (another guys) and a
> 1.2GHz Athlon (my neighbor's main machine) machine. Both had 512MB
> PC133 RAM, both had GeForce 2 32MB cards (AGP 4x). The PC didn't
> exactly blow G4s sox off playing RtCW and they clocked the same FPS to
> woth in 0.9fps on the same Quake3 Timedemo test (not G3 IS AltiVec
> optimised).
> 
> It's hard to tell and is a balance of the quality and speed of the
> hardware and the quality of the software's authors.
> 
> I plan to build a new PC in the next 6 months to play games on (hoping
> of course I actually get a job in that time) because I stand little
> hope of getting a Mac good enough to play nay current titles. My
> current PC is a 500MHz K6-2 with crumby PC66 RAM (well most of it is
> PC100, it's just 1 DIMM pulling it down) in it and a Voodoo3 2000 PCI
> (from my 7500 which I sold). It's a poor games platform for games 1-2
> years old never mind current so i think my G3 is better than it at
> least.
> 
> On this subject i did find that article about IBM's 64-bit PowerPC very
> interesting. It seems that is the missing link between Apple and the
> Power4.
Yes, I am very interested in seeing if this 64 bit processor will show it's
face in the Apple line.  Actually I think that Apple could do ok with the
hardware it has if the Motherboards sported faster bus speeds.  (I think we
all agree to that).  I have an older G4 400 agp 2x and tried putting my
GeForce 4 MX in it and it would not work in OS X.  Only in OS 9.  I wonder
why that is?  I thought it had something to do with the G4's AGP speed being
2x and the card being a 4X.  Oh well, I put it back in the 867 and off we
go.

Matthew Elliott


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